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Only 364, Josef; so we can certainly be sober for half a dozen of them.

You'll note in the photo the unique (to this class) form of the black'n'tan livery carried by several of these engines for a time. When CIE painted locos plain black, the white bit was limited to the tops of cab ends; it didn't go all around and along the sides, unless tan was present too. Several of the B101 class, for a short time, carried the end-only white flashes, but tan the whole way, and full height at that. There was no CIE roundel included, as far as I remember, and I can't see one above. Many of you will have noted the absolutely superb job recently carried out by the ITG at Downpatrick, in repainting A39 in black'n'tan. This raises an interesting, but small detail, with regard to CIE diesel liveries. As restored now, A39 has a "roundel" on the side. Generally, when an A or C class loco carried full-height tan, there was no roundel. And very few of them carried full height tan at all, especially in later days (post-re-engining). But A39 was one of those which did! Normally, the tan band would be the lower one for a re-engine A. So, great congratulations are due to the ITG and its members for an accurate research job well carried out. If only so many other preserved items were restored with this degree of attention to external appearance - which is what people see first. Back to the B101 - it can be all black, like the one at Carrick (though with proper font numerals, not the very thick numbers on it). In this guise, there would be a "roundel". Secondly, it can be same with yellow end patches. Third, it can be as above, a variation not carried by any other loco class, and fourth as above but with roundel and with lower tan strip instead of full height band. Fifth, of course, for some (not all) members of the class, "supertrain" livery.

If you want to be THAT detailed, Tony (and it would look amazing), take photos of individual ones, as the markings on them vary subtly quite a lot, particularly on the back. Probably best to team up markings of your choice with an individual registration number, if you really wanted absolute perfection.

I meant A39. I'd have to confess to being amongst those who might see 458 as "the ugly duckling"! (....running for cover in case Tony throws a railcar at me....)

You did. It was Scahalane. He's putting finishing touches to the inside of the building......

Will the new beauty be on duty? And - I'm presuming it's the standard timetable, perhaps without the 1700 departure?

Beautiful looking beast in original condition. Must have been some sight.

Depends. If there's chocolate, or a Heritage Railway magazine in it, "right now" is always the answer. The rest await the aunts, uncles and turkey.

Is there a bar in it, murrayec?

I remember years ago at Whitehead (and some readers of this will have current experience both there and at Downpatrick), the convoluted puzzles which arose in order to get something at the far end of a siding out, and shunted somewhere else, with inadequate headshunt room. Nightmare. It's not always as simple as it looks, though practice makes perfect.....

Dear Santa....... .....!

w o w !!!!!!

I might do, J'mad. It would take somewhat lionger to get photos of all variations, but we'll see. Initially, drawings. Virtually all liveries were applied to more than one type of vehicle, so a decsription of the livery, rather than all the vehicles, would be a start.

I gorged myself on those the other evening at a family get-together when the younger folk had "cooked".... Who's for a gingerbread De Dietrich set?

Brilliant, Glenderg. PM me your email address and I'll ping you in a few days with whatever ideas I put together.

As long as the venue for the exhibition had a bar nearby, it's a good exhibition. If far away, it's a bad exhibition. That's my technically considered opinion.... :-)

Ahhhhhhh I completely forgot the cat!!!!!!! Likewise, happy Christmas to one and all....

A very Happy Christmas and New Year to all here and their families.

1. Loco runs round, backs up against passenger stock and pushes them clear of points towards Dromod - 3 moves. 2. Loco runs through loop and backs against liner, pushing it back against carriages - 2 moves. 3. Pulls whole lot forward (Dublin direction) through yard loop, stops to uncouple carriages, and sets off for Dublin - 1 move. Is that what happened, at a guess?

They were indeed called "bags" and still are. True, it doesn't seem logical.....! I don't know the origin. Anyone?

Brilliant, folks, thanks for your suggestions, that's very useful. I'll mull over it and see what I can do. I'll prepare it standing on my head so that the illustrations are the right way up!

As an actual book, Kirley, I doubt if it would be commercially viable, but if it was, all the better. I would initially plan to just post it all in a section here. If someone could show me a side elevation of, say, various laminates, that might be a start. I would hope to find a way of "colouring it in" for display here.

I sympathise, Weshty. Every SINGLE post I ever put up here contains some predictive gobbledygook - even worse than the content of my posts.... There's barely one post I don't have to edit...

Imagine the Belmond train travelling to Valentia, Clifden, Clonakilty, Achill, or Bundoran!

Folks, as a result of a couple of expressions of interest, I cast the net wider; is anyone interested in some sort of definitive reference for all known CIE liveries? If so, I would be happy to put this all together, but I'd need the assistance of someone who can help with outline drawings of all sorts of locomotives, carriages and wagons. Any takers? Perhaps you might PM me?