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Just finished "ZZZ-ing" and its almost 2pm.....

Better seats, DiveC; there was just one coach in each set - they never ran together. A Pulman 3rd seat was much the same as a god 2nd class seat in an ordinary carriage. I'm not sure about fares - I must see if I can dig out information...

No, Broithe, I'm not coming back!!! :-)

That's an ex-GNR 3rd class six wheeler of 1880s vintage. he GNR tended to withdraw 30ft stock before the NCC, GSR companies, or, of course the BCDR. This one (at Gyle's Quay) is one of a number which have been there for years as holiday homes. I suspect it was withdrawn from traffic in the 1940s or thereabouts.

From the logo on the back of an envelope, printed before 80 BC, 100,000 years (to the day) before Stephenson's Rocket was invented..... From the jhb171 catacombs....

And..... Sorry - that was U2 tonight (a bit away from when I remember them as a support act in the Baggot Inn in Merrion Row many moons ago....) Anyone for a "telephonic communication"? Hmmmmmm. "W J" Beaumont..... "M" Beaumont....... My grandfather's writing was unbelievably brutal. Any wonder 800 turned out as a 4.6.0 instead of a 3.5.9......

I want one too; I'm there. Despite 04:20, just in from U2 gig and many very late pints. Life is good.....

Tis self explanatory... Note the "Christmas Day Service"..... Still with us, I recall, well into the 1960s.

You're heading well down that road, Horsetan! If it's Tramore you're modelling, so be it.....

This book I'm using is from 1924. The possibility is therefore that 1097 is a very heavy rebuild of a 1911 built coach, which was in progress at time of preparation of the earlier book. I've a bit more delving to do, but it appears that Jawfin has unearthed in two seconds something which has been sitting under my nose for years and years!

I'm on a mission now. The delving has commenced. Meanwhile, I'll try to post up drawings of all horseboxes in that book later tonight.

It actually does, Jawfin. WELL SPOTTED! I never noticed that before. Prevailing wisdom is that the preserved 1097 was built in 1924 (under GSWR) and entered traffic in very early 1925 (now as a GSR vehicle). It's listed in the diagram book as 52ft. I don't think the RPSI / DCDR one is 52ft - I think it's 56 or 60ft. This opens a can of worms! If the preserved one is longer, as I suspect, then it has taken the number of the 1911 built one - why? If the preserved one actually IS the one in the book, look at the different layout for one thing, and more importantly WHY is it generally taken as having been built in 1924???????

Mayner, were you at one stage considering doing a small production run of these, made up? Or did I get my wires crossed somewhere?

True, Mayner, I never heard of a J26 on a suburban train....

That's how I recall them, with smaller than normal "snail" and grey. So there are three possible varieties: red with "Ranks" name, all-grey with name, and all-grey with snail.

One more from above

Finally for tonight, a DSER directory of suitable holiday accommodation in their entire area; fascinating! This is an exceptionally rare item, so I'd have to ask for €20 post included.

BR stuff. Each €5 or €10 the lot, plus post. Signal box hours, that is; an interesting booklet. Now how to drive emu and railcarish things.

1944 Dublin United Tramways Company tram and bus timetables for city and surrounding areas, parts 1 & 2. €7.50 each, €15 for both, very rare! [ATTACH=CONFIG]21256[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]21257[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]21258[/ATTACH] Naturally, with all these timetables, pamphlets and rule books, I'm only displaying a few sample pages! [ATTACH=CONFIG]21259[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]21261[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]21260[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]21262[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]21263[/ATTACH]

BR stuff about signal box hours, and how to drive emus and railcary things. Each manual €5 plus p & p, or €10 for the lot plus pp.

Last post was not GNR headed paper, but a GSR answer postcard! Here's the other side of it. GNR pap to follow - this postcard free with anything else bought.

Great Northern Railway Rare leaflet on labour law relating to the GNR, 1901 €5 plus postage UTA book instructing staff how to deal with bank lodgements. €5 plus postage Isle of Man Railway financial and rolling stock return; free except for postage with anything else bought. Small pad of GNR headed memo notepaper letterhead. Came from Enniskillen station. €10 plus postage; about a couple of dozen sheets.

1944 Dublin United Tramways Company tram and bus timetables for city and surrounding areas, parts 1 & 2. €7.50 each, €15 for both, very rare! Naturally, with all these timetables, pamphlets and rule books, I'm only displaying a few sample pages!

CIE 1946/7 provincial buses, and 1949 suburban rail timetables. Good condition. €5 each plus postage.