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Nope! Much smaller....

An afterthought. If you model late 40s, early 50s, interesting livery variations apply. While your loco would need to be dipped into a pot of grey paint, with only the buffer beams being picked out in scarlet / red, the carriages could include some older wooden ones still in faded and weathered GSR maroon livery. This faded to a reddish brown colour when combined with brake dust. Pristine maroon was gone by this stage. Pre 1955, all CIE coaches were the darker green, including the Bredins and the 1950/51 built CIE stock, which was to much the same pattern. Needless to say, in the scenarios painted in all 3 posts above, all wagons are all-over grey. No black, no brown! And goods brakes were ten years away from getting the yellow / black wasp stripes on the duckets.

...meant to add, re the * beside 800 class.... The GSR had one more green loco. Does anyone know what it was? It lasted in dirty state to CIE days.... It was a one-off which might make an interesting feature on a layout, after a heavy dose of Anthony's weathering, of course!

The good news, cg, is that just about anything goes - although a typical train would have had hardly any two coaches alike, a rake all of one type being inaccurate! Only one "Woolwich" was ever black, and it was painted thus for the Rosslare - Cork boat train. That's not to say it didn't turn up elsewhere... Probably it did. The black was short lived too. So my first assumption is you are modelling somewhere in the "deep south"! Others of the class, like all other loco's, were either lined CIE green (in a small number of cases) or the standard unlined battleship grey. If you model pre-mid-fifties, then everything bar the three 800 class* was grey, including all Woolwiches. So I assume your layout is based late 50s. So here goes. Your train will have a motley selection of brand new Park Royals and laminates in silver or lighter green if you're closer to 1960/1, but mostly old corridor GSWR stock, and more than a few Bredins. One feature will probably be one of the three clerestory coaches, possibly including the RPSI's twelve-wheeled 861, which was a brake tri-compo built as part of a set for the "Rosslare Express" in 1906. These older coaches will be in the darker green with the broad light green stripes above and below window level. A few horse boxes or a parcel van might bring up the rear, and somewhere there is likely to be a 6 wheel passenger brake or mail coach. Hope this helps.

Damn! I have had to change my plans! While the boys in blue are beating Cork on Sunday, I'll be in Kerry!!!!!!! Aaaarrrrghhhh But there ye go. I'll get a chance to see them lift the Liam.

Jedward; one manages each of two CIE subsidiaries. But which ones?

What is S gauge?

It's probably an Austin A35, possibly a hillman Imp.

Superb!

What about an IRM group meeting after the hurling on Sunday... Anyone going?

Can't argue with that, train model, but we ARE de boyznbloooooo! ;-)

Boys in blue for the double! (Hoping!)

Interesting, Hunslet; in gthat case they must have just about overlapped with the old BCDR loco 28 in its very final days?

Yes, I did mean extrenally, josefstadt; i should have clarified that. Internally, there WERE differences, but I don't know what they were as I was only ever in 1508....

For those modelling the UTA or NCC, such coaches are even better for that type of layout (obviously repainted into the darker UTA Brunswick green), as the NCC had vehicles of this design. Needless to say, CIE never inherited any NCC stock.

They were all the same.

Yes, b y that stage NIR had found that their three English Electric shunters, Nos. 1, 2 & 3 left a great deal to be desired, hence Hunslets occasionally doing PW trains. I am quite sure that apart from later workings at Adelaide, they would also have shunted here and there right from the start.

It's not just you, Colm! The lower band on the real thing was indeed narrower, while that on both thosed models is way too wide. These light green bands were edged in gold, as was the snail and the numerals. On the post-1955 lighter green, the narrower waistband, numerals and snail were unlined.This later version had no light green band above the windows.

I remember seeing one of them (101, I think) with a train of old BUT and AEC cars. They would have hauled these and also old ex-NCC stock. I doubt if they hauiled both in the same train. I have a vague idea - though I never saw it - that on at least one occasion a Hunslet hauled a Mk 2 set WITH added older stock also added on. I do not know whether it was ex-railcars or ex-steam passenger stock. I have also seen a pic of one of them in front of CIE stock, though this may have been an empty working or a shunting manoevre.

Stevie, I can't be 100% certain but I suspect it was only in the later version with "tippex" lines only and the orange line below roof level.

One of each in a rake would look good. By the time CIE came into existence, a train of all the one type of coach, as nowadays, was as rare as hen's teeth. Just one of each type above, with a Bredin, a Park Royal, an old six wheeler and a tin van would be about right for most layout uses of that era!

Yes, "Maedb" would be something else, wouldn't it! Back on the Cork line, with 20 assorted Bredins and wooden coaches behind it..... (or 20 pocket wagons!)

The plastic's quite thick - presumably you'd try to have the glazing flush rather than "behind" the window holes... not easy? But well worth seeing the finished result.

Very good! And don't worry about the loco number not being light green - while the "snails" were that so-called "eau-de-nil" pale green, the numerals were a yellowy cream colour - just as you have them.

Stunning!!