Colin R

So as to not confuse the issue I wonder if anyone can answer this question for me. Besides the bog standard Cattle special of say 20 wagons plus a brake van. can anyone come up with a typical good train formation for the above period I understand that it might not be possible but I was wondering what a typical good train would have looked like, I appreciate that the the various lines and different gradients would have played a part in how long a certain train would have been. But I was wondering if you could get away with say two or three covered vans, a couple of opens/flats, may be a container flat wagon with some bread bins on it, may be a well wagon and finally a brake van. Colin

Hi all on Quest channel 37 on free view tomorrow 6th July 2017 at 12.00 am there is a railway programme called trainspotting, it is a bit old dated 2008 I think, but tomorrows programme is all about Irish Railways and the heritage scene in Ireland just in case you can get to watch it. Colin

Seeing that the K1's had a riveted smoke box, it makes me wonder just what was in the kits of parts the GSR got. I read somewhere that the Southern version all had welded smoke boxes so why where they not included in the GSR kits, was it down to the lack of Steel and a cheaper deal was done just to take the parts off the Hands of the UK government at the time? or more cynically on my part was it just a stitch up by the British Government at the time to get rid of a number of part build locos? Either way I think the GSR had the last laugh. Getting back into this thread has made me realise I have two white metal kits to build, so I will have to build one of each type now.

Hi Nelson, just came across this thread and I reckon that the L&YR 2-4-2 tank would make a great stand in for a couple of BCDR 2-4-2T in Green, might buy one when I have some spare cash.

Could it be an ex SL&NCR Coach?

Hi David I was considering the same route but in 4mm scale I think they would look pretty good Colin

So do I have this right then that very little Dublin & South Eastern Railway rolling stock survived after the formation of the GSR? Colin

I would be up for anything from the 1950 to 1960's. I did speak to Allen about the NCC Jeep and he reckoned he needs to have at least four confirmed orders for it to happen. That said CIE cattle wagons would be a good start, the only problem with a brass cattle wagon would be getting the right depth to the framing, I would prefer to see them made from a laser etched ply or a Resin body. Talking of other coaches may be the SL&NCR coaches 9,10 & 11 would also be great, I know Alphagraphix do them in card, but to have a brass chassis for them would be a great bonus. Speaking to Allan some time ago he said he would produce any loco or item of rolling stock if he had 1 the drawing and two a minimum of orders to fill one sheet full of etchings. Obviously a steam loco will take up much more space on a sheet of brass compared to say a coach, that said Jon, you know the ratio and the make up of MGWR coach rakes if such a thing existed. I do hope they also have a Martin Atock's 6-wheeled 3rd class brake, a 6-wheeled Lavatory Composite coach plus of course the 5-compartment 6-wheeled 3rd class coach in the mix. I would also love to see both B&CDR State coach and a B&CDR 6-wheel Passenger Brake van appear as well, as I am not sure if they have been produced at the moment. Colin PS I forgot could also do with some D&SER coaches to go with a J15

you have got to stick to your principles on this, it may be a small market but it is just as important to those who need your products

Well done to them for raising the money they needed, I just hope they can keep the momentum going. the Lynton and Barnstaple Railway Trust has been going in one form or another for well over 35 years, but we have only been running for the last ten and that was with an industrial diesel loco and a couple of tourist coaches and very few active members on the ground. Ten years later and we have a huge Planning application in that will extend the line to just under 5 miles and we have one replica steam loco almost finished, which should be in use later this year we hope. 5 rebuilt original coaches and at least enough bits to build two more, and we also have plans to build four more replica steam locos as well. So giving the time, money and effort to do something, anything is possible, its just about getting the right people in the right place at the right time. Colin

Sound great Tony would it be possible to have the supplier details, I am sure there will be others who are willing to support the guys who make these items. Colin

Thanks for that, now for the $64,000 question, would anyone know what the length or width of the bus body would have been?

Thanks Phil, I am wondering about that bus, I see it has a Inchicore body, which means that drawings from that day and age are going to be almost impossible to come across. Colin

Great photos thanks for sharing

There a bunch of guys out there who model the Irish three foot and also in OOn3 as well, I am not sure if they know about this forum yet. I have seen Andy C on here so I know at lease one other narrow gauge fan on here.

Just come across this thread and its only right you should want to celebrate a birthday in style, congrats's to all you guys who set this up, you have helped me find out more information about Irish railways than anyone else, Sorry If I keep asking simple questions, but I hope you can continue to humor me. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YA:cheers:

I see we have this for sale to day http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Bachmann-N-Class-Irish-Rail-Locomotive-Out-of-Set-Eire-Ireland/322549000757

That was one of my first Irish railway books I got, I meet David a couple of times at exhibitions and his enthusiasm for all things Irish was just amazing, some of the stories where funny others sad, but on the whole he was a joy to be around. A friend of mine went with him to the local pub at lunchtime while he was at the exhibition in Greenwich South London, and apparently while he was there a local Irish Jig band of tin whistles, fiddles and drums just started playing in the pub, wished I had been there to see that. It is all down to him that I got in to the Irish narrow gauge scene in the first place, so yes he was a big influence on my modelling direction. The only Railcar drawings in that book are of the Donegal Railcars, it was mentioned in passing that the West Clair Railway had four similar railcars built with detail differences. In Patrick Taylor book on the WCR it has the drawing for the Railcars, but not of the trailers, it does say that the trailers where build at Inchicore from once again old bus bodies, again the problem is not knowing the source of the bodies, I would guess that there must be some records somewhere, but where do you start to look for them? Would Inchicore still have those records I wonder?

Oops yes I forgot those, but yes you are right Allen has said he would do these for me in OOn3 if I had a drawing, so the search continues. Colin

That's the one guys, thank Jon for the correct classification of the buses, it is no wonder no one came back to me about it. Colin

Wow what can I say that is just the sort of thing I like great thanks Jon Colin

Hi all As part of an on going project for my OOn3 gauge model, I have come across something which I hope one of you guys can help me with. As you will know the old Cavan & Leitrim Railway had a number of carriages rebuild with bus bodies towards the end of operations. I have been informed that the bodies used to rebuild these coaches came from the CIE model N bus. I would love to say has anyone got any drawings of these buses? but a request on a Bus site drew a blank, so the next thing is does anyone have a photo of these buses while they where used on the road, I don't have a clue as to the routes they where used on, but I am sure some one out there will know and be able to help. Thanks Colin

Also he will be at Warley 2017 again with an up to date list and items for sale. I have asked him for certain plans and drawings which he said he would look out for me next time he was over, but it was with the proviso that the IRRS does not have all the information that us modellers desire. He did say that if I happen to know who the manufacture was and where there archives where it could be just as well we contacted them as well. Colin

Hi all you might find some here the only problem is that most of them are water marked, but at least it is a source of drawings http://www.hmrs.org.uk/drawings/british.php?formbutton1=search+British+companies Colin