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hexagon789 started following Train Crash in Greece , IE 22000 Class traction motors , Bargain Watch and 2 others
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IE 22000 Class traction motors
hexagon789 replied to Der Rechtsanwalt's question in Questions & Answers
To put not to gine a point on it - they don't have traction motors, the 22000 Class have hydraulic transmission with one torque converter and two fluid couplings providing three transmission ratios. Change-ups being at approximately 55 and 75mph, change downs approximately 5mph lower. There is also an integrated hydrodynamic retarder, which greatly reduces friction brake wear. The transmission is the same as on British Class 185 and 180 trains, though the latter have longer transmission ratios as they are 125mph trains, as opposed to the 100mph of the IÉ 22k Class and BR Class 185. Each car on a 22k has one MTU engine of 360kW (483bhp), this drives both wheelsets of one via reduction gearing linked to the fitted hydraulic transmission by cardan shafts. On driving cars the powered bogie is the inner end one. All diesel railcars in service with IÉ have hydraulic transmission, so the only traction motors are on the DART electric fleet and the 071/201 diesel loco classes. For completeness - in NI, the C3K have hydraulic transmission while the newer C4K have mechanical transmission. The older 80 and 450 Class were diesel-electric, so had electric traction motors - on the 80 Class two of 265bhp; on the 450 Class two of 220bhp. Both types used English Electric motors and both types had them on the inner bogie of the power cars for weight distribution reasons. If you've any further questions I'll try to answer them -
I believe the 121s are commonly known as 'Yanks' because they were the first US-built locos. Similarly the 59s in the UK are known as 'Yanks', though a few other classes with US heritage are also nicknamed such, including at least one class of steam locomotive.
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Thank you Gibbo, much appreciated, but Irishmail posted those further up, I was just giving some further variants for those same classes.
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Oh I appreciate that, but in emergency or in theory a tour seemed about the only options for it as in ordinary service seemed so unlikely as to be essentially a given hard 'no', so I ruled that out from the beginning.
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Teacups, because the engine sound on tickover sounds like *ti-cup ti-cup, ti-cup, ti-cup* Whizzos or wizzos - because they were "wizzo or wizard", now somewhat dated slang for being great. Westerns is definitely the more common nickname though, but there are others such as Thousands. Ped, "ped-estrian" - relating to the 31s rather sluggish performance Boats - as mentioned, the Napier engine was widely used by the Navy in Gunboats and similar. They were also called 'gunboats' for this reason. Tram - because they could run in either direction and were high in frequency of appearance. Bucket was rather derogatory, Whistlers was you might say the name of choice 40 bashers/fans and bucket that of their detractors. Given because towards the end most of the 40s were 'Rust Buckets' to some degree, only the "Green one" was looked after much. Politicians - because they are full of holes, you can see through the bodyside grilles. Ditto Doughnuts. Ying-yings - because the low engine idle produces a charateristic 'ying-ying' sound. Precisely that. I'll add some others: • Class 08 - Jockos • Class 14 - D Nine-Fivers • Class 20 - Whistling Wardrobes • Class 22 - Spokies • Class 24 - Fruit Machines • Class 25 - Spluts • Class 26/27 - Spinning Tea Cups/Tip Tops • Class 28 - Crossleys • Class 31 - Baby Brushes/Brians/Mirlees/Rogers/Toffee Apples • Class 33 - Bean Cans • Class 35 - Meks • Class 37 - Bonnets/Bullnoses/Frogeyes/Growlers/Nose Peds • Class 40 - Big Ds/Empresses • Class 42 - D800s • Class 43 HSTs - Flying Bananas/Zings • Class 44/45/46 - Wagons • Class 45 - Cromptons • Class 46 - Brush Fours, usual ER crew name when new; also later referred to 47s network-wide • Class 47 - Brush Fours/Generators (401-420 only)/Hawker/MacDuff (Scottish based)/Shove Duff (push-pull fitted) • Class 50 - Blue Bleeps/Vacs • Class 52 - Thousands • Class 55 - Drones/Gun Boats • Class 56 - Christmas Trees/Gridirons • Class 57 - Heinzs/Thumderbirds • Class 58 - Fitted Wardrobes • Class 59 - Yanks • Class 60 - Polos/Ghosts • Class 66 - Donkeys • Class 67 - Neds/Piledrivers/Super Sheds • Class 68 - Big Cats/Cats/Caterpillars/Warskips • Class 70 - Fuglies/Predators/Pugs/Ugly Bettys • Class 73 - Eddies/Mr Eds/Shoeboxes • Class 81-86 - Sparkies • Class 86 - Cans/Zebedees • Class 87 - Lasers/Pifcos/Magnificent Sevens/Sevens • Class 88 - Fat Ladies • Class 89 - Flying Badger • Class 90 - Carpet Slippers • Class 91 - Ladas/Milkfloats/Super Skodas • Class 92 - Caravans Some for units: Arkwrights - 444s Basils - 755s Bog Carts - 1st gen DMUs Clactons - 309s Cucumbers - GWR 800/802 Dessies/Dezzies - 350/380/444/450 Four Slip 'n' Slide - 455s Greyhounds - 421/5 Happy Trains - 365s Javelins - 395 Nelsons - SR 4COR Nodding Donkeys - Pacers Plastic Pigs - 442s Rattle Traps - 304 Scuds/Shoeboxes/Skateboards - 153 Thumpers - 205 mainly but any of 201-207 Zoomers - LNER 800/801
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Depends how invasive or straight forward such mods might be. I presume there is still provision to work doors from the van or from a door vestibule? Wouldn't having a guard work the doors on any prospective 071 working be simpler?
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The Mk4s have HEP provided by two gensets in the DVT and the De-Dietrichs now use refurbished Mk3 EGVs rather than power from the 201s, so loco-provided HEP doesn't really matter. On the question of actually hauling either type, there would be no problem as 071s are dual braked, so can haul air-braked Mk3/Mk4/D-D stock no problem. The 90mph top speed of the 071s would only pose a slight problem on the Cork Line where there is now plenty of 100mph track including one almost 50-mile long section passed continuously for that speed now; the Cross-Border Dublin/Belfast Main Line having a 90mph ceiling. The main safety issue might be lack of door control buttons on the 071s, as I believe when they hauled Mk3s the doors were always operated by the guard from the van or in later years from selected door vestibule control panels when modified. Not sure on the De-Dietrichs, but on the Mk4s the driver does the doors from the cab AFAIK. I don't see that an emergency or even railtour would have any real insurmountable issues with D-D or Mk4s being hauled by an 071 though, there's no physical incompatibility in the most basic features - getting the damn' thing to go and stop!
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If GB nicknames were included, I have a list of over 600 and still growing...
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If you were familiar with the layout at Cook Street, you could understand how easily it could happen in spite of all the warning signs and 'low bridge' warning system in place on the buses themselves.
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Dutch Vans (steam heat) - boilers: Two Spanner of 1000lb/hrs. Generator - Lister HR3 of 32.25hp at 1500rpm Dutch Van (electric heat) - one Cummins NTA 885-G3 of 535hp at 1800rpm powering one Dale EM/395/DCE Alternator of 283.5kW at 1500rpm BR Van - boiler: One Spanner of 2000 lb/hr. Generator: Lister HR3 of 32.25hp at 1500rpm Mk2D EGV - Engines: Two Detroit 8V-71N of 234hp at 1575rpm powering Two International Electric alternators of 160kW Mk3 EGV - As built - Engines: Two Detroit 8V-71N of 234hp at 1575rpm powering Two Newton Derby Alternators of 168kW As modified Engines: - Two Cummins LTA 10G3 of 295hp powering Two Newton Stamford HD4D Alternators of 202kW at 1500rpm. Details from 2004. For reference - a Mk3 coach requires 30kW of power, a Mk3 diner requires 70kW. Hopefully this helps in some way.
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While the new build and upgraded sections are equipped for ETCS cab signalling, much of the old parts of the line still in use have the signalling either broken or disabled and thus are worked on telephone and train orders. Almost all double track in Greece is equipped for Bi-directional running.
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British stuff from the Catacombs
hexagon789 replied to jhb171achill's topic in British Outline Modelling
Forth Bridge in Scotland. An LNER J38, I think. (I'm not the best with steam loco classes.) -
British stuff from the Catacombs
hexagon789 replied to jhb171achill's topic in British Outline Modelling
Top ones are Inverness. Class 24 diesel. The fact that it's in the 'south' side platforms and has a Class 1 'Express' headcode in the headcode box, suggests a Glasgow or Edinburgh service. Aberdeen trains were Class 120s DMU from 1959-80, so I'm ruling that out. The mix of Blue/Grey & Maroon Mk1s suggests late-60s/very early 1970s. Bottom two are Stranraer Harbour with a Class 126 DMU, these were repainted from Green first to all-blue then to Blue/Grey as here. The 126s only received Blue/Grey from 1977 and the Class was mostly withdrawn in 1982, a couple of sets surviving until January 1983. The Stranraer services became loco-hauled in 1981/2. So bottom photos are 1977-81; likely more in the middle of that range. Class 52 'Western' (2,700bhp 90mph Diesel-hydraulic), no idea of location or year though but they were all based on the Western Region! -
British stuff from the Catacombs
hexagon789 replied to jhb171achill's topic in British Outline Modelling
Apologies, I thought the clock was at the station at Skegness. And in my defence I've never seen Cleethorpes! Yes, my error there -
British stuff from the Catacombs
hexagon789 replied to jhb171achill's topic in British Outline Modelling
You're very welcome. What I lack in historical knowledge of Irish railways, I hope I make up for in more modern age GB railways! (I think my modern era Irish railway knowledge isn't bad though! )