Tullygrainey Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Galteemore said: It’s actually more than likely there was an overlap Alan. Lovely work. I do like black Irish tank engines Yes, me too It's a shame one of this pair didn't make it to Witham Street. Edited February 2 by Tullygrainey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrovik Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) Stunning Model, Alan, although I've always felt that the UTA livery looked a bit like the Graham farish shredded wheat loco.... Edited February 2 by Metrovik Typo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Metrovik said: Stunning Model, Alan, although I've always felt that the UTA livery looked a bit like the Graham farish shredded wheat loco.... Well, the UTA did shred the railways under their control........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted February 3 Author Share Posted February 3 6 hours ago, jhb171achill said: Well, the UTA did shred the railways under their control........ Had them for breakfast, you might say 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 13 hours ago, Tullygrainey said: Had them for breakfast, you might say Resisting the temptation to milk this one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, Patrick Davey said: Resisting the temptation to milk this one You’re toast if you do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Galteemore said: You’re toast if you do Great slice of humour there GM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Jayyyyysus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 You may have noticed my model of No 18 started out as a full English 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Hopefully the DCC chip is of good quality and doesn’t get fried 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 After a very enjoyable weekend with Patrick Davey's Brookhall Mill at the Bangor Show last weekend, my loco-building gene started to agitate again. What next? A number of folk have suggested (and keep suggesting!) a BCDR Baltic but those things still have too many wheels and whirly bits. As well as all things BCDR, I have an abiding affection for scruffy little shunters, both steam and diesel and in my to-do drawer for a while now has lurked an etched kit for a Hawthorn Leslie 0-4-0 saddle tank crying out to be built. So I've made a start on it. Since it's not by any stretch an Irish loco, you'll find the build in the 'British Outline Modelling' part of the forum. Alan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Get you re valve gear Alan. Thank goodness the SLNC never bothered with such twentieth century monstrosities. What about No6 or 16 next? Know what you mean about that gene too- I am planning out a 10thou footplate right now…, 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 53 minutes ago, Galteemore said: Get you re valve gear Alan. Thank goodness the SLNC never bothered with such twentieth century monstrosities. What about No6 or 16 next? Know what you mean about that gene too- I am planning out a 10thou footplate right now…, Yes David! By coincidence I’ve been pondering No6 for a while. That particular wheel arrangement, along with 4-4-0s too seems to be tricky to get working properly so I’m tempted by the challenge. I have a copy of Mike Sharman’s little book ‘Flexichas’ in which he describes a novel approach. I’d like to try it! A bogie tank would be good too. I did one from an Adams Radial but it would be nice to get a bit closer to the prototype with a scratch build. What are you planning with that footplate? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) Sounds good Alan. No 6 in either incarnation would be delightful. As for me, I am returning to a long-stalled project to build an ex-GNRI 4-4-0, a J class….now on its second attempt at a chassis…..bottom pic shows attempt 1, before I managed to find a Beyer Peacock GA. Top pic shows bogie almost ready to roll. Edited March 28 by Galteemore 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Alphagraphix do the County Down 2-4-0 in 7mm scale and the MGWR G2 as well. The photo on the website of the latter is the one I built. Did a GER E4 2-4-0 as well, back in the day. Nowhere near as challenging as a 4-4-0, because they are not much different to an 0-6-0. Bit of side play and springing on the front wheels and Robert is your father's brother! Well, mostly... 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 On 13/4/2023 at 2:00 PM, Tullygrainey said: A bit more progress with Number 29. Some nice wheels from Alan Gibson... Then, some paint on the frames, gearbox in, wheels on and quartered using my trusty G.W. Models wheel press and quartering jig. A great little device that takes some of the agony out of a tricky job. Wouldn't be without it now. Rods held on temporarily with bits of wire insulation. We have a chassis that rolls under finger power without any tight spots. That's a relief! Motor in and under power, it shuffles along very nicely. chassisrun.MOV 30.31 MB · 2 downloads Now, about that bogie.... Still travelling hopefully, Alan That wheel press looks the business 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted Thursday at 19:46 Author Share Posted Thursday at 19:46 (edited) After the distractions of industrial railways, both standard and narrow gauge, it’s back to the County Down. After much pondering, I’m going to have a go at one of the BCDR’s 2-4-2T tank locomotives. Beyer Peacock supplied two of these in 1896 and 4 more in 1897. Before long they were edged out by the more common and more successful 4-4-2T bogie tanks. The first one was scrapped in 1924 but some were still working in 1949. Deciding how best to build a 2-4-2 chassis, I rummaged through my collection of guru advice. In Mike Sharman’s little booklet “Flexichas”, there is an elegant design with a floating gearbox cradle and compensated pony trucks each end. Elegant but complicated. I closed the book and tiptoed quietly away. Iain Rice’s “Locomotive Kit Chassis Construction” has a photo (page 48) of a 2-4-2 chassis with radial trucks at each end. That might be do-able and it might steer better than simple axles with sideways movement at each end. So here we go. As usual, I started with the rods. I used an Alan Gibson universal rods etch (4M92) and a little jig made from PCB and brass rod to make sure both rods were the same length. (If they’re not, game over) I’m going to try these radial truck etches from London Road Models. Received wisdom suggests that the chassis needs to be narrowed at each end to allow the trucks to do their thing. This usually means joggling the frames. On a kit with nice half-etched lines for folding, maybe. On a scratch build and in my hands, I could see disaster looming with the likelihood of chassis frames bent in all sorts of unhelpful directions. My solution is frames made up in 3 flat parts with the end sections overlapping and fastened inside the centre section. Even this was difficult enough to build straight. More jigs. OO chassis spacers for the centre section and narrower 10mm ones for the end sections. For the coupled wheels, one fixed axle and one with hornblocks. Poppy Woodtech chassis jig pulling its weight again. Remains to be seen if I can make this work. But nice to be back on the County Down Alan Edited Thursday at 19:52 by Tullygrainey typo 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted Thursday at 19:59 Share Posted Thursday at 19:59 (edited) Tasty !! I’m building the same chassis arrangement right now, which has floating axles at each end. No easy solution with such things…. Edited Thursday at 20:01 by Galteemore 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted Thursday at 21:21 Share Posted Thursday at 21:21 Excellent, I'm suitably engrossed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Davey Posted Thursday at 22:02 Share Posted Thursday at 22:02 And we're off! Have you decided on a livery and number yet Alan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted Friday at 06:30 Share Posted Friday at 06:30 Seriously clever stuff - got to love those jigs! My Alphagraphix 2-4-2T uses a similar system to the one for Cleminson 6w coaches with the pony wheels lightly sprung to both guide into curves and stay on the track. Mostly successful, but remains a bit of a problem child because the pony wheels can stick, while in a ideal world it would be nice to have them with pick ups to spread that load as well. Hence will be watching with even more interest than usual. Looks a super project and having just bought some universal rods from Gibson, that little jig is a very timely reminder! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted Friday at 07:23 Author Share Posted Friday at 07:23 9 hours ago, Patrick Davey said: And we're off! Have you decided on a livery and number yet Alan? Probably one of the longer lived ones Patrick - No 7 which apparently came to grief in an accident at Queen's Quay in 1949 or No 27 which was scrapped around 1951. Livery options include: a) Vauxhall Burgundy Red, because I've got the paint b) GNR(I) unlined black, so it can sneak in undetected at Brookhall Mill c) Some variation of BCDR lined green Probably c) 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted Friday at 12:23 Share Posted Friday at 12:23 4 hours ago, Tullygrainey said: Livery options include: a) Vauxhall Burgundy Red, because I've got the paint Do I detect the Waterford, Limerick & Western Railway edging in here? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted Friday at 12:37 Author Share Posted Friday at 12:37 9 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Do I detect the Waterford, Limerick & Western Railway edging in here? only by coincidence I suspect. It’s what was left in the paint-shop after a certain Hawthorn Leslie 0-4-0ST was outshopped. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted Friday at 12:38 Share Posted Friday at 12:38 That really looks the business. Perfect weathering too, and surrounding scenery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted Friday at 22:56 Share Posted Friday at 22:56 That's nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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