Murph Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) OK , I'm thinking seriously about starting a small N Gauge project along the lines of Rorgyle by Brant Hickman. Been on me mind for weeks now and I've decided to make a start , Rorgyle is an end to end only 8 inches wide but I like the idea of a wider baseboard probably 4 foot long X 2 foot wide to run continuous trains with a bay platform at the station and a siding into a goods shed for storing wagons and coaches. The canal lock and a bridge and a Faller bridge are on thier way Tried to make a start on scratch building the lock keepers cottage this morning (DON'T ASK) it was a disaster , don't remember if I mentioned it to ye but I only have one good arm, the left one, no bicep muscle in right one due to muscle wastage (Accident years ago) so I'm restricted as to what I can do , OO scratch building is fine but N is out of the question, just too small even with glasses, me binoculars would have been better. Anyway wish me luck lads , I'll keep ye updated , and NO don't mention the Rugby !!!! Sláinte Murph Edited October 15, 2023 by Murph 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) Excellent - Brant’s layouts are little gems. IIRC he travels to shows by public transport hence the reduced dimensions. See also ‘Littleton Curve’ You may also wish to check out the ‘Kidmore’ series of layouts, by David Mitchell, and especially his tribute to Brant- Kidmore Magna https://kidmorengauge.weebly.com/kidmore-magna-n.html Edited October 15, 2023 by Galteemore 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 15, 2023 Author Share Posted October 15, 2023 Loving those Galteemore , need to get the baseboard first , problem is everyone wants to sell me an 8 X 4 sheet , they're willing to cut it (for a fee of course) but then I'm left with the rest and we only have a Nissan Micra , off to B & Q tomorrow to ask for any offcuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 I'm also looking at putting together a small N Gauge layout, but this one will be to hang on the back of the door. If it helps, a circle of N Gauge track fits into a circle of about 506mm. Great for me, door is just over 700mm x 2000mm. 506mm is just under 20" in old money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironroad Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Murph said: Loving those Galteemore , need to get the baseboard first , problem is everyone wants to sell me an 8 X 4 sheet , they're willing to cut it (for a fee of course) but then I'm left with the rest and we only have a Nissan Micra , off to B & Q tomorrow to ask for any offcuts. I think B&Q sell smaller sheets, 6 x 2 and 4 x 2, check their website. As to charging for cutting, the first 5 cuts are free and it is 50c per cut thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Sweeney Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Murph said: "OO scratch building is fine but N is out of the question, just too small even with glasses, me binoculars would have been better" I'm a n scale scratch builder. I would be unable to do it without my headband magnifier. MODELCRAFT HEADBAND MAGNIFIER | Hand Tools | Tools | Catalogue | MarksModels Edited October 16, 2023 by Kevin Sweeney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 10 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: I'm also looking at putting together a small N Gauge layout, but this one will be to hang on the back of the door. If it helps, a circle of N Gauge track fits into a circle of about 506mm. Great for me, door is just over 700mm x 2000mm. 506mm is just under 20" in old money. Keep me posted, we can be known as the N gauge crew lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 16/10/2023 at 1:04 AM, Ironroad said: I think B&Q sell smaller sheets, 6 x 2 and 4 x 2, check their website. As to charging for cutting, the first 5 cuts are free and it is 50c per cut thereafter. Hell! Imagine cutting something for free. Where would the poor ol chippies be with that carry on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) On the subject of baseboard materials FYI, Woodworkers supplied precision pre-cut to your spec high quality birch ply sheets in 6mm and 12mm suitable for rapid modular baseboard construction. Ideal for constructing WMRC standard 4ft or 5ft baseboard modules. Glue with hot gun in 15mins, then paint 2" fibreglass tape across the joints with PVA, and seal the entire module top and bottom with domestic grey primer paint for permanent moisture resistance and stability free from warping. Lightweight board modules, easy to work on and transport. Grey paint also handy for gluing track bed materials, and scenics to the baseboard double sided tape for temporarily http://www.woodworkers.ie 2" fiberglass tape PVA painted over glue joints for added strength and bonding Primed for life Sits on Plastic folding trestles Using back scene boards as a support the baseboard can sit on its side at 90º for easy access and working on wiring, point motors, etc, rather than crawling under baseboards with tools and soldering irons. Wiring becomes more comfortable when you can stand up and work on the underside of a baseboard vertically. The 6mm backscene board acts as a stand to sit the baseboard vertically on its side. PS: From past experience the material to avoid if at all possible for layout baseboard is chip board, absorbs moisture, unstable, sags when damp, and ridiculously hard to get track pins into. Not an easy materials to work with. Edited October 23, 2023 by Noel 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Handy Gort baseboard guides here and here and here, too. Mine is going to be challenging as it has to hang on the back of the door, so needs to be as thin and light as possible, while not looking unseemly when hanging up. Bsically, both running surface and underside will need to be covered while not in use. To be brutally honest, I have some ideas, but they are not tried nor tested, and I have other projects in the way, first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 OOPS , B&Q visit got a 4' X 2' chipboard , very pleased until I checked it with track plan on anyrail track planner tingy and found out it didn't f*****g fit !! Now found a local lad that has 8' X 4' sheets of OSB board for €19 and will deliver it free of charge as his shop is only 150 metres from our front door , and I know his dad who is another local musician , excess will do for raised track beds , looks like the jigsaw is coming out to play. Made Faller bridge , first Faller kit I've done and very impressed with detail and ease of assembly. Fingers crossed Murph 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Murph said: OOPS , B&Q visit got a 4' X 2' chipboard , very pleased until I checked it with track plan on anyrail track planner tingy and found out it didn't f*****g fit !! Now found a local lad that has 8' X 4' sheets of OSB board for €19 and will deliver it free of charge as his shop is only 150 metres from our front door , and I know his dad who is another local musician , excess will do for raised track beds , looks like the jigsaw is coming out to play. Made Faller bridge , first Faller kit I've done and very impressed with detail and ease of assembly. Fingers crossed Murph Murph, OSB board wouldn,t be the most stable of sheet material. Really only used for rough site work. Just saying.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, derek said: Murph, OSB board wouldn,t be the most stable of sheet material. Really only used for rough site work. Just saying.......... 20mm OSB is sound Derek, much more rigid than the same thickness MDF, in my humble opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 21 hours ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said: 20mm OSB is sound Derek, much more rigid than the same thickness MDF, in my humble opinion Shur what would I know ha ha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 OK its sorted, after some digging and head scratching I found that 4 foot by 2 foot IS fine so let the fun begin, Metcalfe Settle & Carlisle station building complete and canal lock with different levels done too. Water is 3mm Perspex painted with a dirty mix of light green and burnt umber brown and the reflection when turned over when its all dry (5 coats) is amazing, must say the Metcalfe kits are superb and very easy if you take your time, lovely detail and very sturdy. Pleased so far , more stuff arriving today (A4 card for track bed) and tomorrow (Marks Models in Dublin more Metcalfe kits) and Amazon (track, steel ruler, and magnifying adjustable glasses) Will upload some pics later when tablet has charged. Still yet to find it a name !! Murph 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 Noel, I'm loving the baseboards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 Apparently there's a town in Co. Galway called "Muckanaghederdauhaulia", don't think I'll call the layout that, not enough space on station nameboard Or this one !!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 Right, big change, Murphy's Wharf has been retired, luckily I built it in sections and added them bit by bit so no damage done on removal from the man shed and the funeral took place in the spare room wardrobe yesterday. The N gauge project (still nameless) is being moved in today. Metcalfe kits coming on grand, really pleased with the ease of construction and superb detail, 4 X 2 baseboard increased to 4 X 3 and will now have a side extension making it L shaped, idea is to run a main line oval with two added loops of increasing radius bends on left hand side for train storage and will run into a a branch line terminus onto the other board , this means one train can disappear into the tunnel , flick the points and a different train will emerge, raised track beds on main board started yesterday. Wish me luck on move to it's new home and promise photo's will follow, Sláinte Murph 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Quote Pics for ye... Metcalfe Station complete Canal Corner Black Bull pub & Lock Keepers Cottage The revamped man shed Just about to add weeds round platform base , flower pots , a few advertising signs , Hattons order arriving Monday with GWR spear fencing an a few more bits including a GWR restaurant coach still in a sealed box never used for €9 , Marks Models Dublin order on Tuesday with more Metcalfe kits , getting used to smaller size now so a test scratch build looks likely. Sláinte Murph , Edited November 10, 2023 by Murph Adding Text 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Great work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Thanks Galteemore , how ye doin ?? Edited November 10, 2023 by Murph Corrections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabhal Luimnigh Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Fair dues Murph, you are flyin it, I hope you are not the plumber in the house though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Gabhal Luimnigh said: Fair dues Murph, you are flyin it, I hope you are not the plumber in the house though HA HA , no I'm not thank god ,, we've a local lad fer all that , could do with a plasterer too , the hole in the wall at the back was to accommodate a GWR autocoach overhang on the tight bend of the old layout , luckily it wont be seen when the backscenes go on this one , they're actually arriving today , the press shelf the layout sits on slides in and out on runners if I remove the loose side section so I've access to the back right now , so all the work there will be done first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 11, 2023 Author Share Posted November 11, 2023 WOW , now this one is impressive and has given me some great ideas , forgive the annoying ads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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