CIE 20' Tank containers

[Mol_PMB]

CIE had a fleet of 20x8x8 tank containers, mostly used for fuels and other oils.

Latterly they were used on the Foynes to Ballina coal and oil train, and the barrier wagon tanks used on the Ammonia trains were also very similar.

Here are a few detail photos that I took of dumped survivors.

[Mol_PMB]

Some from Flickr.

 

From Fred Dean, one of the Ammonia barrier tanks:

From Jonathan Allen, a photo dated 1989 with stacks of tanks carrying different branding. Two are Shell, three are Cold Chon (Galway):

A photo in Doyle&Hirsch shows two of these tank containers with similar branding panels for Cationic Road Emulsions.

From Jon33040 on Flickr, here's the 'wrong' end of the coal&oil train, with the tanks just visible in the distance.

 

[Ironroad]

2 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

 

 

 

Not wishing to distract from the central topic here, but 035 is sporting quite a dent in this photo, what's the story, anyone?

[MOGUL]

13 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

From Jonathan Allen, a photo dated 1989 with stacks of tanks carrying different branding. Two are Shell, three are Cold Chon (Galway):

A photo in Doyle&Hirsch shows two of these tank containers with similar branding panels for Cationic Road Emulsions.

 

 

 

These are most likely carrying Bitumen Emulsion or cutback bitumen to Road Binders Ltd in Quartertown mill, which had a siding off the Tralee line. Cold Chon manufactured these at plants in Oranmore and on Sligo Quay but I'm not sure where the Shell branded tanks might have been coming from. I'm guessing that the siding closed some time in the 70s, and these tank containers worked in regular liner trains replaced delivery by Tar wagon direct to the Mill. Road Binders and Cold Chon have both since become Colas, now where have I heard that name

[Mol_PMB]

Some more photos of these tank containers, from Jonathan Allen on Flickr. They're mostly in the background but if you click on the links and then zoom in, a lot of detail is visible including lettering variations and numbers:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51572604289

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51571111947

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51571921546

 

[Robert Shrives]

tucked away in my covid wagon building page is a couple of these done for coal/oil train. But what has eluded are pics of the coal container legends - if any. I to had viewed the  pic of 011 and can see white/ shiny panels on side of coals but there does not seem to any better "out there" that I have found/ stumbled upon. 

Thanks for the image of tank data panel , quite happy to leave mine blank! - lazy I know but will keep eye out for donor decals.

cheers

Robert    

[Mol_PMB]

7 hours ago, Robert Shrives said:

tucked away in my covid wagon building page is a couple of these done for coal/oil train. But what has eluded are pics of the coal container legends - if any. I to had viewed the  pic of 011 and can see white/ shiny panels on side of coals but there does not seem to any better "out there" that I have found/ stumbled upon. 

Thanks for the image of tank data panel , quite happy to leave mine blank! - lazy I know but will keep eye out for donor decals.

cheers

Robert    

Nearest I've found so far for your coal containers, they appear to come in several variants and different liveries!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51699006747

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51699802461

 

[MOGUL]

8 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

Some more photos of these tank containers, from Jonathan Allen on Flickr. They're mostly in the background but if you click on the links and then zoom in, a lot of detail is visible including lettering variations and numbers:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51572604289

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51571111947

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51571921546

 

Interestingly the third tank at least seems to be lagged. It looks like the outer shell has cracked, and you can see some of the insulation sticking out. Judging by the angle of the ladder, looks like that one took a knock at some stage. 

 

 

[Mol_PMB]

3 minutes ago, MOGUL said:

Interestingly the third tank at least seems to be lagged. It looks like the outer shell has cracked, and you can see some of the insulation sticking out. Judging by the angle of the ladder, looks like that one took a knock at some stage. 

 

 

I agree. If you look at my second photo in the first post of the thread you can also see the lagging there, where a quarter of the outer cladding is missing.

Originally, they seem to have been intended for tar and bitumen, which would have been loaded hot.

On the sixth photo on my first post, just under the wording 'no naked flame' I think those two pipe fittings would have connected to a steam-heating coil within the tank. So if the train took too long to reach its destination and the tar 'set', you could liquify it again with steam.

[Past-Avenue]

47 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

Nearest I've found so far for your coal containers, they appear to come in several variants and different liveries!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51699006747

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51699802461

 

Here is another version of the coal body as you can see in the photo above and its the one that i chose to model in the photo below. 

[Mol_PMB]

Nice model!

At least one of the containers in the background of these Jonathan Allen photos has a legible number panel - CIEU 060369 3  IRL 2208 8

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51769520243

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51769522113

https://www.flickr.com/photos/152343870@N07/51768451412/in/album-72177720295407867

 

[Mayner]

On 14/11/2024 at 11:50 PM, MOGUL said:

These are most likely carrying Bitumen Emulsion or cutback bitumen to Road Binders Ltd in Quartertown mill, which had a siding off the Tralee line. Cold Chon manufactured these at plants in Oranmore and on Sligo Quay but I'm not sure where the Shell branded tanks might have been coming from. I'm guessing that the siding closed some time in the 70s, and these tank containers worked in regular liner trains replaced delivery by Tar wagon direct to the Mill. Road Binders and Cold Chon have both since become Colas, now where have I heard that name

Bitumen was imported through Dublin Port and loaded at a private siding into a Bitumen Terminal near the end of the Alexandra Road Tramway. Interestingly the Cold Chon siding at Sligo Quay was reinstated during the 1990s, Sligo Bitumen traffic transported on the trice weekly ESSO Oil train, presumably Bitumen traffic to other destinations were transported by scheduled Liner Train.