Bachmann CIE coaches

[Tractionman]

I've no idea what the credibility is of these but thought they'd be of interest, the boxes are marked as LMS so I'm assuming someone has done a respray?

https://clarkrailworks.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/bachmann-oo-rake-of-5-cie-irish-coaches-copy

 

Cheers,

Keith 

 

[WRENNEIRE]

Kosher Bachmann/Murphy products
Produced in 2001 to run with the N Class Moguls which he had produced with Bachmann the previous year

[jhb171achill]

On 3/1/2025 at 8:18 PM, Tractionman said:

I've no idea what the credibility is of these but thought they'd be of interest, the boxes are marked as LMS so I'm assuming someone has done a respray?

https://clarkrailworks.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/bachmann-oo-rake-of-5-cie-irish-coaches-copy

 

Cheers,

Keith 

 

Correct. In reality, they’re utterly unlike anything which CIE or any of its constituent companies ever possessed - they’re an exact equivalent of a  BR “Blue Pullman” masquerading as a Donegal railcar, by slapping red and cream paint on it.

They are indeed standard LMS designs.

The dark green isn’t quite right, and the lining is far too wide.

BUT: the positives.

1. Cheap way of a representation of steam era coaches, acceptable to many as a reasonable compromise, and alternative to complex scratch building.

2. Part of a “train set” with a “Woolwich” K class.

3. Biggest advantage of the lot; while I said the green isn’t quite right for CIE (though it’s not a million miles off), it actually IS a reasonable approximation to UTA Green - and being a successor to the LMS NCC, the UTA (and early NIR) did indeed have vehicles this design, brought over here when the AfD’s grandfathers bombed Belfast’s NCC carriage sidings in the 1940s. I travelled in them, with their musty-smelling upholstery, in the 1960s. (Provincial Leslie will recall them too, operating out of Londonwaterside station!).

So scrape the CIE stuff off, add UTA stuff, and stick a “Jeep” up front (rtr, anyone?) and say ye go.

Better still, buy the LMS ones, alter the lettering to NCC version, and model that MOST neglected Irish railway, the NCC!

As an aside, the Derry Central, along with the Dungiven, Draperstown and Ballyclare branches, are perfect layout fodder…..

 

 

As a further aside, I believe the last steam-era coach in passenger service was an ex-NCC 1926-built open third, latterly used as an intermediate, complete with old varnished wooden seat frames, in an MED railcar set as late as about 1981/2. I travelled in that a number of times, the last being in a state of pleasant inebriation after some sort of music festival… 

[Mol_PMB]

If you do the UTA thing, then you can always run them with a CIE loco south of the border, and even south of Dublin:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/54255883237/