west_clare_wanderer Posted March 20 Posted March 20 (edited) EDIT: Please see latest post for most up to date 'wants list' Hi all. I'm looking a few packs of IRM wagons that have long sold out, in order to fill gaps in my collection. Firstly, some oil tankers: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/b-class-tank-wagons Secondly, some magnesite ore wagons, like these: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/magnesite-ore-wagons Diesel oil tanks: https://www.accurascale.com/products/cie-diesel-fuel-oil-tank-wagon-black-pack-1 Brown CIE grain wagons: https://www.accurascale.com/products/cie-bulleid-bulk-grain-wagon-brown-cie-roundel-era-pack-1 Finally, maybe some Bulleid opens with a grey chassis (flying snail era), like these: https://www.accurascale.com/products/cie-12t-corrugated-open-wagon-flying-snail-pack-1 I appreciate this is the longest of longshots, but you don't know until you ask! I should add that I am on the right-hand island at the moment, which means GB or the North based is best. Thank you very much for looking. David Edited June 5 by west_clare_wanderer Updated 2
DJ Dangerous Posted March 20 Posted March 20 42 minutes ago, west_clare_wanderer said: Hi all. I'm looking a few packs of IRM wagons that have long sold out, in order to fill gaps in my collection. Firstly, some oil tankers: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/b-class-tank-wagons Secondly, some magnesite ore wagons, like these: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/magnesite-ore-wagons Diesel oil tanks: https://www.accurascale.com/products/cie-diesel-fuel-oil-tank-wagon-black-pack-1 Brown CIE grain wagons: https://www.accurascale.com/products/cie-bulleid-bulk-grain-wagon-brown-cie-roundel-era-pack-1 Finally, maybe some Bulleid opens with a grey chassis (flying snail era), like these: https://www.accurascale.com/products/cie-12t-corrugated-open-wagon-flying-snail-pack-1 I appreciate this is the longest of longshots, but you don't know until you ask! I should add that I am on the right-hand island at the moment, which means GB or the North based is best. Thank you very much for looking. David Try @leslie10646 who is selling off some wagons, and @WRENNEIRE who always knows a man. 1 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 34 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Try @leslie10646 who is selling off some wagons, and @WRENNEIRE who always knows a man. Thanks very much for the tip off. I'll reach out to them 2
NorthWallDocker Posted March 21 Posted March 21 David, I have Magnesite wagon sets C and D, six wagons total. If those might interest you, and you cannot find a closer or better source, I'd be happy to discuss possible shipment to you from Chicago. Just send me a message. Martin Tuohy 1 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted April 29 Author Posted April 29 On 21/3/2026 at 3:03 AM, NorthWallDocker said: David, I have Magnesite wagon sets C and D, six wagons total. If those might interest you, and you cannot find a closer or better source, I'd be happy to discuss possible shipment to you from Chicago. Just send me a message. Martin Tuohy Hi Martin. Apologies for the delay in replying to you. I'm very sorry abiut the rudeness. Thanks for you very kind offer, I've managed to source some magnesite wagons closer to home (and without any customs duty). But I'm really grateful for the offer. I've managed to source a lot of what i need (and will be able to get some remaining 'wants' through the same channel), but will update this thread with I'm looking looking when I've built my railway fund back up! 2
west_clare_wanderer Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 (edited) My wagon quest is slowly progressing thanks to a very helpful chap in Dublin... I'm also looking for a few locos to complete my roster. Most importantly, a couple of Supertrain A Class locos (non sound). It was 018 and 027 which were done in this livery. So if you have one (or more) languishing and in need of a new home, please let me know. After that, a couple of Black and Tan 141s would be nice too. Those aren't high priority until I've secured some A Class locos though. Thank you very much for looking. David Edited June 5 by west_clare_wanderer 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 Just as an aside, was the only difference between the original Supertrain livery and the Irish Rail one the logo? If so, as an alternative approach, I'm guessing an IR one could be modified with a broken wheel decal.
Mol_PMB Posted June 5 Posted June 5 8 minutes ago, west_clare_wanderer said: Just as an aside, was the only difference between the original Supertrain livery and the Irish Rail one the logo? If so, as an alternative approach, I'm guessing an IR one could be modified with a broken wheel decal. My 007 (with IR logo) is a slightly lighter shade of orange, but it's not dramatically different, just looks realistically faded. It's not as light as the later IE shade of orange, I think. However, I don't have any IR/IE liveried locos to compare with. My plan was to replace the IR logo with a roundel to replicate this (yes, that's me!). Then I got distracted by the 1960s... 3
west_clare_wanderer Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 4 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: My 007 (with IR logo) is a slightly lighter shade of orange, but it's not dramatically different, just looks realistically faded. It's not as light as the later IE shade of orange, I think. However, I don't have any IR/IE liveried locos to compare with. My plan was to replace the IR logo with a roundel to replicate this (yes, that's me!). Then I got distracted by the 1960s... If it is good enough for you as a master modeller, then it's more than good enough for this amateur bodger!! PS - what a jumper!!! 1
Mol_PMB Posted June 5 Posted June 5 1 minute ago, west_clare_wanderer said: If it is good enough for you as a master modeller, then it's more than good enough for this amateur bodger!! PS - what a jumper!!! There was a Mk2 coach on the back! Designed by me, knitted by my Mum. 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 7 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: There was a Mk2 coach on the back! Designed by me, knitted by my Mum. Please, please say you've still got it!?
Mol_PMB Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Sadly, I wore it so much it ended up as more holes than wool! That was 40 years ago! I'm not at home at the moment, but I've since rearranged these with 007 closer to some other orange things. There's a bit of variation between the manufacturers and batches, but there was on the prototype too as the paint faded, so it doesn't bother me. You can see there's a small difference even between the Murphy locos. I realise that I have an 018 as well (so that's five A class bought secondhand - oops!). Not sure I'm quite ready to part with it though. I'm pretty sure I've seen every model for sale at least once over the last couple of years. 2 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 Maybe IRM should start a line of such jumpers...... Thanks, that's really helpful. It is lively to see your stock displayed like that. Well, if you do decide to part with 018, can I please have first dibs! 1
Mol_PMB Posted June 5 Posted June 5 That's the boring 'out of the box' side of the display! When I've thoroughly ruined things they end up in the other half. I'll be back home tomorrow and will update the pics. 1
Mol_PMB Posted June 6 Posted June 6 Whether you call it Saffron, Golden Brown, Tan, or Orange, here is a comparison of shades on models: The 071, 121 and 141 are Murphy Models, note that 086 is in the 1980s livery not the as-delivered 1976 livery. The two Cravens are also Murphy. The two A class 007 and 018 are IRM, as is the Park Royal. All the above are in out-of-the-box condition though many were acquired secondhand. The two containers were painted by me using an old jar of Railmatch CIE golden brown. The shades aren't all identical, but certainly within the range seen in reality during the 1980s. And back to your original question, 007 and 018 are the same colour. I believe the prototype paint colour was actually changed to a lighter shade in the 1990s, but that's after my period of interest. Here's the other side of the cabinet, stock that's regauged, modified, repainted, kit-built etc., warranty thoroughly voided on all of these: 11
GSR 800 Posted June 6 Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said: Whether you call it Saffron, Golden Brown, Tan, or Orange, here is a comparison of shades on models: The 071, 121 and 141 are Murphy Models, note that 086 is in the 1980s livery not the as-delivered 1976 livery. The two Cravens are also Murphy. The two A class 007 and 018 are IRM, as is the Park Royal. All the above are in out-of-the-box condition though many were acquired secondhand. The two containers were painted by me using an old jar of Railmatch CIE golden brown. The shades aren't all identical, but certainly within the range seen in reality during the 1980s. And back to your original question, 007 and 018 are the same colour. I believe the prototype paint colour was actually changed to a lighter shade in the 1990s, but that's after my period of interest. Here's the other side of the cabinet, stock that's regauged, modified, repainted, kit-built etc., warranty thoroughly voided on all of these: Gorgeous collection! 4 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted June 11 Author Posted June 11 On 6/6/2026 at 9:19 AM, Mol_PMB said: Whether you call it Saffron, Golden Brown, Tan, or Orange, here is a comparison of shades on models: The 071, 121 and 141 are Murphy Models, note that 086 is in the 1980s livery not the as-delivered 1976 livery. The two Cravens are also Murphy. The two A class 007 and 018 are IRM, as is the Park Royal. All the above are in out-of-the-box condition though many were acquired secondhand. The two containers were painted by me using an old jar of Railmatch CIE golden brown. The shades aren't all identical, but certainly within the range seen in reality during the 1980s. And back to your original question, 007 and 018 are the same colour. I believe the prototype paint colour was actually changed to a lighter shade in the 1990s, but that's after my period of interest. Here's the other side of the cabinet, stock that's regauged, modified, repainted, kit-built etc., warranty thoroughly voided on all of these: Wonderful Paul!! What's the origin of your flat wagons with containers in your Supertrain cabinet?
Mol_PMB Posted June 11 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, west_clare_wanderer said: Wonderful Paul!! What's the origin of your flat wagons with containers in your Supertrain cabinet? Those two were resin kits from Provincial Wagons (Leslie), slightly modified. They represent the 20' 27101 class, basically the same as the chassis for the later type of beet wagons. I also have three other types of 2-axle container flat, none of which have been completed yet! Old MIR whitemetal kits, these are the 22' 27301 class. Etched brass kits from J M Design (Mayner), these are the 20' 25436 class with floors. A sample 3D print from Past-Avenue (Enda), which represents the 20' 27101 class. I got all these with the intention of making a 1970s liner train, but my interests have drifted back in time and they have remained in the stash for now. I do intend to finish the 25436 flats fairly soon (they are the earliest prototype). 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted June 11 Author Posted June 11 36 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: Those two were resin kits from Provincial Wagons (Leslie), slightly modified. They represent the 20' 27101 class, basically the same as the chassis for the later type of beet wagons. I also have three other types of 2-axle container flat, none of which have been completed yet! Old MIR whitemetal kits, these are the 22' 27301 class. Etched brass kits from J M Design (Mayner), these are the 20' 25436 class with floors. A sample 3D print from Past-Avenue (Enda), which represents the 20' 27101 class. I got all these with the intention of making a 1970s liner train, but my interests have drifted back in time and they have remained in the stash for now. I do intend to finish the 25436 flats fairly soon (they are the earliest prototype). Thank you very much Mol! As ever you're a mine of information 1
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