Maybach Re-engined 201's

[StevieB]

B233 and B234 were re-engined with Maybach 980hp units in 1966 and1965 respectively, eventually joining the rest of the class mates with GM 1100hp units in 1980 and1979 respectively.  The front cover of the IRRS Journal 193 has a photo of B189 and B234 double heading a Limerick to Dublin train in 1969. B189 is in black and tan livery, while B234 is in all black livery, save for the white flash above the front windows. Is this the livery the two class members carried until their rebuild with GM units? I am particularly interested in their appearance in the mid 1979's.

Stephen

[Warbonnet]

9 hours ago, StevieB said:

B233 and B234 were re-engined with Maybach 980hp units in 1966 and1965 respectively, eventually joining the rest of the class mates with GM 1100hp units in 1980 and1979 respectively.  The front cover of the IRRS Journal 193 has a photo of B189 and B234 double heading a Limerick to Dublin train in 1969. B189 is in black and tan livery, while B234 is in all black livery, save for the white flash above the front windows. Is this the livery the two class members carried until their rebuild with GM units? I am particularly interested in their appearance in the mid 1979's.

Stephen

Hi Stephen, I have seen pictures of them in Supertrain before re-engineering. I also believe there were visual differences compared to the rest of the C’s, including only having one engine room window instead of two. 

[StevieB]

C220 was the last of the original Crossley engined locos to receive a GM transplant in August 1972, at which point it was still in black with a white flash over the front windows.

Stephen

[Mayner]

There are photos of both 233 & 234 in the Supertrain livery inside Inchacore  Diesel No 1 on 10 July 1976 in Barry Carse's Irish Metrovicks book. There is also a 1969 colour photo of B233 departing Connolly in multiple with B192 with the Sunday 10:00 Dublin-Limerick via Nenagh passenger. B233 looks very smart in black with small yellow warning panel and white cheverons above the cab windows. 

The main visual  difference between the Maybach engined locos and the original C Class was the blanked out porthole on one side at the RHS at the No2 end and the larger radiators. 233 & 234 did not receive GM pattern headlamps until re-built with EMD 645 power units during the late 1970s.

The locos seem to have been used on Dublin-Limerick passenger workings and bagged & bulk cement from Castle Munget

[flange lubricator]

There is also a nice picture of 233 on the 0500 Athy Cement ex Limerick passing Cherryville Junction in the IRRS journal no 65 Oct 1974 233 is in Supertrain livery with no GM headlight so it still had  the Maybach engune fitted nice orange bubbles too .

 

[StevieB]

I see what you mean about no GM headlight, something to make it stand out from the crowd and add variety to a loco stud.

 

Steohen

[Noel]

On 27/10/2017 at 9:55 AM, flange lubricator said:

There is also a nice picture of 233 on the 0500 Athy Cement ex Limerick passing Cherryville Junction in the IRRS journal no 65 Oct 1974 233 is in Supertrain livery with no GM headlight so it still had  the Maybach engune fitted nice orange bubbles too .

 

Is there possibility of a link to that picture?  Would love to see it.

[StevieB]

The photo was one of a number in the middle of the journal depicting current passenger and freight trains. They all have a description but no photographer is credited. Perhaps those of us deeply involved with IRRS might be able to help, otherwise we risk infringing copyright.

Stephen

[StevieB]

Elsewhere in this issue it is reported that the other Maybach engined loco, B234, is out of action, its Maybach engine being beyond economic repair.

Stephen

[Eiretrains]

On 31/10/2017 at 3:36 PM, StevieB said:

The photo was one of a number in the middle of the journal depicting current passenger and freight trains. They all have a description but no photographer is credited. Perhaps those of us deeply involved with IRRS might be able to help, otherwise we risk infringing copyright.

I'm glad to read that there's a conscious recognition of respecting copyright re: IRRS Journal on this forum. Without this respect, it would only undermine the voluntary efforts and costs incurred that goes into producing the IRRS Journal and in particularly the pictures contained therein. If there is sufficient interest, the photo concerned can be made viewable via the IRRS's own Flickr photo-archive which is dedicated for such purposes for IRRS members.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/

Edited November 3, 2017 by Eiretrains
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[jhb171achill]

And as a member of some forty years, I can attest that there's some very interesting stuff in that Flickr account. As Eiretrains says, it's available to signed up members.