snapper Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I was look at this vid and thought they would make a nice model. The base is a standard 20ft flat wagon. The sides dont look too complicated to make from plasticard. Has any body got any idea for the tarpaulin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 One of the recent Model Rail magazines covered a material to use for tarpaulin - I'll look it up for you when I get home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Are those trains hauling tara mines or beat bit confused as the video is on the Wexford line. Did the tara's travel that far south? Edited December 22, 2012 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Nice footage there of an A class at full throttle! Are those trains hauling tare mines or beat bit confused as the video is on the Wexford line. Did the tara's travel that far south? The ore was originally transported to Arklow for transfer to ships there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/making-realistic-tarps/3310/# Alternative is to use cling film layered 8 times with a skin of pva every two sheets. Form the tarp by pushing the wagon into it, and creasing the film along the sides. Then you can mark the film, cut off the excess, and fold the four outer creases to form a whole tarpaulin. It will take a while to dry, but laminated cling film is surprisingly rigid and holds folds & creases well. It likes sticking to plastic too.Richie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 Are those trains hauling tare mines or beat bit confused as the video is on the Wexford line. Did the tara's travel that far south? As far as I know during the early 90s there was a short lived experiment to so if they could send the ore out cheaper by port from Arklow rather than Dublin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/making-realistic-tarps/3310/# Alternative is to use cling film layered 8 times with a skin of pva every two sheets. Form the tarp by pushing the wagon into it, and creasing the film along the sides. Then you can mark the film, cut off the excess, and fold the four outer creases to form a whole tarpaulin. It will take a while to dry, but laminated cling film is surprisingly rigid and holds folds & creases well. It likes sticking to plastic too.Richie. Great, thanks. Now all I have to do is build the rest of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 As far as I know during the early 90s there was a short lived experiment to so if they could send the ore out cheaper by port from Arklow rather than Dublin. I didn't realise Tara ore went out through Arklow somebody must have been trying to put the frightners on Dublin Port, the cost of getting the ore to Arklow would have been much higher compared with Dublin, much longer rail journey, lighter train loads and road transfer. Originally traffic from Tara went out in Byrytes wagons through Foynes, the Alexandra Rd Tara Terminal (Gouldings Wharf) was picketed by Gouldings Fertiliser workers who were looking for better redundency terms for several months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h gricer Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) I didn't realise Tara ore went out through Arklow somebody must have been trying to put the frightners on Dublin Port, . Thats exactly what it was about John, but the round trip was too long, a 2day round trip, it was 13.20ex Navan on Monday to Pearse Station, then on Tuesday it was 5.30 Pearse / Arklow laden zinc, the loco would then work 9.40 Shelton Abbey / Marino Pt empty ammonia. The return working on Tuesday 8.40 Laden ammonia to Shelton, the 17.00 Arklow to Drogheda empty zinc, so laden zinc train Monday Wednesday Friday, empty Tuesday Thursday Saturday, the paths where linked in with the ammonia workings, IRRS Journal no159 February 2006 has a small piece on it, the wagons found another use in grain traffic, details also in the same Journal. The wagons are now scattered far and wide, some even found in fields with chickens living in them. Regards hg Edited August 22, 2012 by h gricer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Davies Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Apologies for digging this one up again! Those containers on the 20ft flats, are they standard open top containers? They appear similar to the 20ft coal boxes that were used on the Cawoods traffic. When did the Tara traffic change from these wagons to the current ex-shale type wagons (approximate year, not day, date, time!) Are there any photographs of either the loading at Boliden's or the unloading* at Alexandra Rd? If you'd rather not post, any PMs will be treated with the utmost discretion. I'm guessing it would be a tippler arrangement because those wagons don't appear to be conducive to unloading by shovel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The Tara traffic has basically been carried in the same purpose built covered bogie tippler wagons since traffic started in the late 70s, the Shale wagons were an air braked open topped development of the original Tara design. The Shale traffic never lived up to expectations in terms of tonnage or revenue and a number of surplus Shale wagons were modified for Tara traffic in the early 1990s. The initial ore shipments went out through Foynes as redundant Goulding Fertiliser workers placed a picket on the Alexaandra Road Ore Terminal (Gouldings Wharf), the shipments through Arlkow in the 90s may have been a negotiating ploy with Dublin Port or possibly to overcomee a short term capacity problem. At the time the 4w container wagons were under-utilised and the open containers allowed short term contracts to be negotiated for traffic like grain, coal at marginal cost without major investment in new rolling stock or terminal facilities. Paul Shannons Irish Railfreight video covers most freight workings in the early 1990s including the loading at Tara and unloading operation at Alexandra Road. Tara sends out both lead and zinc concentrates which are toxic hence the covered wagons and enclosed loading and discharge facilities. A a Apologies for digging this one up again! Those containers on the 20ft flats, are they standard open top containers? They appear similar to the 20ft coal boxes that were used on the Cawoods traffic. When did the Tara traffic change from these wagons to the current ex-shale type wagons (approximate year, not day, date, time!) Are there any photographs of either the loading at Boliden's or the unloading* at Alexandra Rd? If you'd rather not post, any PMs will be treated with the utmost discretion. I'm guessing it would be a tippler arrangement because those wagons don't appear to be conducive to unloading by shovel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Davies Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Thanks John for the descriptions, input and clarification. -Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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