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  1. Branchline 121 Thank you for your rebuke. My wording was clumsy. Perhaps I should have written - The building of the railway line from Armagh to Castleblainey put a stop to any future expansion of this line by the Midland. Mayner Thank you for your explanation on the politics behind extending the Dublin and Meath to Armagh and further north. OB.
  2. "The line was supposed to have made it to Kingscourt, if that had came to fruition that part of the railway probably would have lasted a bit longer. The Dublin and Meath Railway Company way back in 1865 had reported an increase in their traffic of 19%. At that time they had plans to extend their line from Navan to Kingscourt and even for an extension to Castleblaney, where it was hoped to join the Irish North Western Railway. The Navan and Kingscourt Railway Act was passed in July (1865) to run from a junction with The Dublin and Meath at Navan to Kingscourt. Move forward to November 1887 when the Dublin and Meath sold their company to the Midland Great Western who purchased it provided there was also an agreement to purchase the Navan and Kingscourt railway. The Great Northern built the Armagh to Castleblainey to stop the midland gaining access to Armagh. For a detailed history I recommend reading -- The Midland Great Western railway of Ireland --An Illustrated History -- Ernie Shepherd
  3. DSER Sections of Double Track Harcourt Street - Shanganah Junction. Newcastle to Wicklow - 19th July 1887
  4. A very good question. My excitement had got the better of me! I discovered that which did not exist! Having looked at the photograph again, I should have observed the wheel position. Had I done so, your explanation would have become apparent to me. Thank you.
  5. ERNIE'S PHOTOGRAPHS Perusing Ernie's photographs today, I found this image of GNR No800 at Dundalk. Whilst she certainly caught my attention - there is something else in this photograph, that caught my eye and my attention. What might this be? Look to the right-hand -side of the photograph and to the rear of the shed. There sits Cattle Wagon 4872. What is unusual about Cattle Wagon 4872? The loading ramp is at the end of this Cattle Wagon. Was this a one off? Our Font of knowledge, young Mr Beaumont may well have the answer? Jonathan, can you or others on our Forum provide further information? Why is this wagon or any companions different to the standard Cattle Wagon; the ones with their doors in the centre! IMAGE (Copied from Ernie's massive collection of Railway Photographs)
  6. Athlone, Great Southern and Western Station and Yard? Looking to the right-hand-side of the signal, between the two sets of Telegraph Poles there is a Railway Line. The Midland Great Western line from Mullingar met the Great Southern and Western Line from Portarlington East of the Shannon Railway Bridge. This junction was a short distance West of the Great Southern and Western's Station on the East Bank of the Shannon River.
  7. I know it's Christmas and that we are supposed top believe in Miracles! Well that picture has to be a Miracle if it were taken in Inchicore or, anywhere in Ireland! Why? The picture is showing a Glasgow and South Western Railway Locomotive. The location, St Enoch Station, Glasgow. This was a location I knew well as I travelled to it on a daily basis prior to its closure. It was demolished after its closure and replaced by a Shopping Centre. A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our members of this forum.
  8. Dear Mr Holman, Please see attached. This is a Quay building in Rathmelton. It has a plaque - L&LSRWayCo - 1864. I have viewed it whilst visiting relations, resident in the area. So, you have the building. Just need to get tracking, eh! Thank you for your interesting posts, excellent modelling. Image from Google Maps. White.
  9. CIE Dark green. 1st and 3rd Class CIE Lighter Green. 1st and 2nd Class.
  10. Mr Beaumont, CIE Liveried Coaches Thank you, yet again, for your contributions on the vagaries of our Irish rolling stock, and for covering so thoroughly - the variety of consists, the era in which they ran, the locomotives that they were paired with, as well as the geographical lines they ended their days upon. I placed my order this afternoon for these. I chose the four pack, individual 3rd, 2nd Class, composite, 3rd and 2nd Brake Vans in both liveries, and to finish things off, a couple of B&T Vans too. All to remind me of my days when I watched and travelled on 1950s CIÉ, in a coach that had six wheels, a half compartment partition, and bounced its merry way from Sydney Parade to Killiney, without stopping at Booterstown Station. Even better, a train from Harcourt Street to Bray and sighting GSR Maroon six-wheel coaches at Foxrock. Perhaps, Hattons may consider a Great Southern version of these too. Would this be unlikely as it is too far in the past? I just hope I'm still alive and able to run my Model Railways when deliver of these coaches takes place. This is really a comment for you young McAllister!! Oh, coach numbers and possible duplication. I believe, unless I misunderstood the conversation, I held with Hattons, the four pack numbers are not duplicated by any of the other coaches. Jonathan, again, thank you for all your contribution and time on this matter and others too. White.
  11. Ah well, young Beaumont. Now there is a tale to tell, is there not! Look at photographs of CIÉ, Class U, single deck buses. The Country bus and Dublin City ones. U 51 to 88. built at Spa Road, Works in 1954. The front on this batch of bused is as near as "Identical" to the front of your Railcar. I know and loathe the expression as near as identical. Something is or is not identical. Your story could be along these lines. CIÉ discovered they were in possession of an additional front panels for a bus, but they had no other materials available for its completion. Thus, the Railway Works, at Inchicore were approached and asked if they may have a use for the surplus bus front. Remembering the Bus side of CIÉ had delivered a former Dublin United Tramways "A Class" bus to the Railway. This was converted into a Rail-bus. Not very successful. So, there is precedent!! I'm sure someone will be able to add a photograph of the city, or country, U Class Bus for your perusal.
  12. Good evening young Sir, What a pleasure it is to read your reply to my comment. From memory, now I don't know that reliance may be placed upon it (my memory) at my advanced years; I believe the date was shortly after the commencement of the DART Services: - Bray - Howth - Bray. If you can find the date for the commencement of that Shuttle Service. and the withdrawal of all of the former Push-Pulls sets, excluding the Shuttle Service Stock. you will be close to the date I referred to. From memory, "My driver, that day, was to take-up duties on the Bray-Greystones-Bray shuttle the following week. I believe from memory; this was the commencement of the shuttle service between Bray and Greystones." I may be incorrect? If the Push-Pull stock continued in use used on serviced out-with the area served by the newly electrified DART Services, I'm up-the creek. However, I remember the statement made to me by my driver that day when I travelled to Maynooth and back to Connelly. (See quotation above) Give me a "bell" and let us have a natter. Far too long since we conversed. Kindest regards, White.
  13. Push-Pull to Maynooth. I travelled on a Push-Pull train (Former AEC Railcars and a B201 Locomotive) from Connely to Maynooth to Connely. My driver, that day, was to take-up duties on the Bray-Greystones-Bray shuttle the following week. I believe from memory; this was the commencement of the shuttle service between Bray and Greystones.
  14. Edinburgh. Travelling through Princes Street Gardens. The direction of travel is from Waverly Station to Haymarket Station. East to West. The far end of this train is exiting the tunnel under The Mound. It has a steep incline, is heating during inclement weather to prevent it from icing during cold spells. It is one of two thoroughfares connecting the New Town to The Old Town.
  15. Might these sources may help provide some historical background your project! https://vlex.co.uk/vid/enniskillen-bundoran-and-sligo-808242049 "The Irish North-Western Railway joined with the Enniskillen and Bundoran Railway Company to build a 36-mile line from Bundoran Junction (then called Lowtherstown) to Bundoran, which opened in 1866. Plans were made to extend the line to Sligo. The extension was authorised in 1862 but this never materialised. This would have opened up the Atlantic Corridor enabling people to travel from Derry to Limerick by rail. Many of the various private railway companies operating in the north of Ireland amalgamated in 1876 to form The Great Northern Railways Company (G.N.R.)." https://discoverbundoran.com/historic-bundoran/railway/
  16. Are you also an Andrew's Boy? Teachers - Southgate, Sleath, The Bog and Spud too. Ah, just remembered, your Father's Home was in Wellington Road.
  17. "The Enniskillen and Bundoran Railway hoped to reach Sligo via a coastal route, but they would lose out to the Sligo, Leitrim and Northern Counties Railway. I think I'd like to model this unbuilt line in GNR(I) days. Does anyone know what engine classes would have been used on this line, had it been built? If anyone has suggestions for books or information on this proposed line, I'd be very grateful." RaglanRoad, Somewhere at the back of my mind I recall a visit to, The Irish Railway Record Society, Heuston Station. There I viewed Station Plans for the proposed Bundoran to Sligo Railway. If you contact the Society, I'm sure they will be happy to assist you. Perhaps, you might consider becoming a member! I assume, from your name "Raglan Road" that you may well be a resident of Dublin. Incidentally, I attended School on a road not far from Raglan Road. Ah, the memories!!
  18. "That happened to me once on an summer excursion and I missed my footing climbing down and fell onto the ballast!"" Might Guinnesss have been consumed?
  19. Waterford - Old six wheel passenger coaches. Curiosity got the better of me as far as this photograph is concerned. I wondered if I might be able to decipher the writing on each of these coaches? "Curiosity killed the Cat, Information made him Fat," that is, according to my Maternal Grandmother, born in 1887. For anyone interested! Coach to left of picture - No 32A - ACCIDENT VAN - GSWR - LOCO DEPT - CORK - 32A Coach to right of picture - Left side of photograph - WATERFORD I cannot decipher to writing to on the right hand side of the Coach, but, suspect it is WATERFORRD! Ernie, again, thank you for your photographs. Please take care of your health. Best wishes, Old Blarney.
  20. It was intended these three tramcars be preserved. They were stored at Sutton for this purpose. Unfortunately, vandals destroyed them. The Pullman Car, Luxury Car, the most modern looking of the three was refurbished in the GNR sheds prior to it use as a static Information Office during the, 1953, An Tóstal festival in Dublin. It was positioned on the North side of Nelson Pillar. (See it at 2minutes 44 seconds.) I remember visiting it, and my astonishment that it was there as our Dublin Trams had been withdrawn in July 1949. It was devoid of its internal fixture and fitting, if my memory serves me correctly. The trams were not brought to this location for scrapping, they were there with the intention of saving them for preservation. The vandals destroyed them and they were eventually buried in an adjacent quarry, as far as I'm aware. I'm open to correction on this point.
  21. The following information is taken from - "Locomotives and Rolling Stock of Coras Iompair Eireann and Northern Ireland Railways -O.Doyle and S Hirsch. March 1969." Numbered Series 32001 - 32020. Introduced 1978. Builder: Fauvet Girel, France. Length: 42' 6". Weight: 29 tons Capacity: 46 Tons Couplings: Screw Brakes: Hand /Vacuum. There were also Barrier Wagon, two per train, Numbered Series 30279 - 30284. Weight: 17 Tons and their container of Water 20 tons! must also be considered for these train formations. Built for the carriage of liquid anhydrous ammonia between Nitrigin Eireann Teo plant at marino Point, Cork and Shelton Abbey, Arklow, these wagons are leased from Storage and transport Systems Ltd, London and are painted white with an orange and green underframes. I believe additional Ammonia wagons were acquired, unfortunately, I have no information on these. I remember seeing a photograph of one or more and I noted they differed in their body design.
  22. I note the Great Northern Railway has a mixture of inside and outside keys on their track. For those with an interest in such matters look at the sixth sleeper to the North of the Telegraph Pole. The keys toward the Station change to inside keys there. The point is a mixture of inside and outside keys. A pleasant reminder too of the articulated railcars. They look as if they are F and G? I note they both carry the white tail square, which I believe noted the rear of a train. I remenber, with fondness, my excursions to Howth or Sutton on the GNR railcars, and then, a trip on the Hill Trams. The sounds of the Trolley passing beneath the wire, the clank of the wheels passing over the DUT and GNR Crossing at Sutton Cross and the removal of the trolley from the overhead as one decended from the top of the Hill toward Howth Station.
  23. Another feature in this photograph. The use of - Inside Keys. They are especially noticable on the track at the bottom of this photograph. Thank you for posting your photographs and my best wishes to you too.
  24. I'm sorry to have to correct you. A) The tram in this photograph is a former GNR(I) Hill of Howth Car No 9. It resembles a single deck car because the upper-deck chastity board and the mesh wire surround has been removed. The one in the photo is a single decker. It is possibly one of the DUTC trams that ran from Dublin to Howth, but not to the 'Summit' of the Hill of Howth? B) No it is not. The DUTC Cars running on Route 31, from The Pillar to Howth Village were Double Deck Cars. DUTC, Single Deck Cars, (other than Maintenance vehicles) were only ever used on the route from The Pillar to Sandymount Tower. They ran via Bath Avenue, thus they travelled under a low Bridge which neccessitated that single Deck Cars be used. These cars were altered Double Deckers, with their upper deck removed. The Hill of Howth Car at Crich, No 10, is the Sister of the Car in the photograph.
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