Kirley

Very impressive

Anthony -good to see you are still posting away after your scare yesterday and overnight hospital stay. Your resilience in the face of adversity is amazing, hope there are no after effects. By the way I’ve PM’ed Glenderg re your kind offer to collect the station canopy from him on Dec 8th.

Well done Heirflick, how long have you been hiding this gem?

Thanks for the tutorial John it was very helpful to see how it is done and making etched brass kits not so scary.

Was this set also issued in Dec 2003?

Schalane if you can get photos please post them especially if it shows spacer trucks. I have a Hornby breakdown crane in the roofspace and I was wondering on the possibility of modelling this crane, the Hornby is 75 ton while CIE’s train was 35 ton. Hornby BR Breakdown Crane (R6602) The Hornby breakdown crane model dates from 1971 and is based on a 75 ton rail-crane built by Cowans-Sheldon & Company Ltd of Carlisle. Twelve of the cranes were ordered by British Railways in 1960, ten of them steam driven and two powered by diesel engines. They were the most powerful lifting cranes in Britain at that time. Like the real cranes, the model includes a jib-runner and two spacer trucks. When the model had first been introduced, the jib-runner had been a conversion of a flat wagon from cheap 'starter' train sets of the 1960s. From 1988 this was replaced by the 'Winkle' plate wagon, introduced in 1972, but suitably converted to provide a bar on which the jib could rest. The set includes four ‘L’ shaped jack arms that plug into the side of the sides of the chassis, to stabilise the crane when lifting heavy objects. There is also a separate chimney. Over the years there have been at least ten versions of the model, most of them either red or yellow. The recently released version is red and numbered TDM1093 and the jib-runner is numbered BD956528.

Richie can you clear your mail box please as your stored private messages is over quota and cannot accept further messages until you clear some space.

Fantastic work as usual Richie, thanks for putting up the canopy pictures, it really looks the part.

I came across this image -The CIE 35 ton steam crane (made by Cowans Sheldon) at work in Navan station. This was during relaying to accommodate the running of trains to the Tara mines CopyrightAlbertBridge Wondering when it was decommissioned, any other information on it and if anyone has modeled it?

Just installed some station lights and did a test in daylight, sorry for the poor clarity of the photos . The lights are by Langley Models and I have an entry in my Workbench on how to construction them.

Thanks everyone for putting up pictures, some excellent landscape scenes with great detail. I note according to the pictures railways were in a minority, I thought model railways were popular in the Cork area especially with Marks Models shop there to supply the demand?

Thanks Ger for your useful suggestion. However I am so far down the road with my own attempt I’ll continue on to see how it works out. I’m hoping to get away with 4 LEDs, 2 reds with fibre optics for the 4 marker lights and take fibre optics off the headlamp LEDs for the white markers. If that fails I’ll fall back on your suggestion. Thanks David for your silver paint suggestion, like Anthony I’ve been using matt black paint for masking any escaping light.

Great find, thanks for posting

A quick update on various projects I’m currently working on. A Class I’m building another SilverFox A Class on a Hornby 52 Chassis and am putting in LED’s for the headlamps. Previous experience with SilverFox resin bodies shows they are prone to light seepage through the body’s thin points like the moulded horns. To get round this I have used Evergreen tubes which I’ll paint black to minimise any light escaping. I was going to use fibre optics from this tube to provide the white marker lights and am still trying to figure out where to place the red LEDs to take fibre optics off them for the marker lights. I’ve also got a SSM kit to add some detail. Wills Level Crossing Kit I bought this kit a long time age as I thought it would be a step up from the Airfix/Dalpol one. I was disappointed to see that it was not a working model so I decided to add a pivot to the base of the gate to allow it to swing. I drilled a hole and used a paper staple for the metal work. I also added some wire for the gate support. Again I used a staple for the top gate hinge. Now I have a gate that works. Station Lights I have been trawling through the internet for station lights to match my GNR type station and the nearest and most reasonable ones I found were these by Langley Models. In the packet you get a very small LED in a black plastic box which you have to remove and solder 2 wires to either end. The lamp posts you cut to size and as mine are very small I ended up with more post below the surface than above. You have to cut out the globe out of plastic and stick it to the post and add the lamp top. I sprayed the post grey as I have no idea what colour these lamp post were, all my photographs are black and white. I have drilled holes in my station platform and hope to get them wired up within the next few days, I’ve tested them after construction and they are all working ..at the moment. I post up some pictures in my layout section in due course.

Irish Pub Building - take a European building and stick a sign “Irish Pub” and hey – you’ve got an Irish building. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350644478069&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

21st Century Railways I watched this program last Monday and was slightly underwhelmed by it, probably because I was expecting too much. I viewed again last night, found I picked up more information this time and that it was an enjoyable show of its type. Looking forward to next Monday’s Part II.

Thanks for the photos

Excellent pictures Eamonn, thanks for posting

Your layout is really coming on a pace. It would be nice if you had the time to do a resume of where the whole layout is now, it’s so extensive and spread over so many pages and it’s hard to get an overall impression on the extent of progress....only if you have the time and inclination.

You have taken on the challenge of modelling a railway from so far away and getting great results. Please keep the pictures coming.

Thanks Richie. It's gone into the "Things To Do Box" when I get time. I did one before cut out of printed card but it did not look right, hopefully I'll have better luck with this one.

Thanks guys for all the information, I have summarized it as follows: 1. What is the “Supertrain” livery used on locomotives and coaches? Plain orange and black livery was introduced by CIÉ as a successor to the 'Black & Tan' colour scheme 2. What “orange” colour was used? The orange used was slightly deeper than the shade used for the IR/IÉ colour schemes. 3. When was it introduced and when was it superseded by a new livery? It was 1972 when the Supertrain livery appeared and it started to be phased out when Irish Rail was formed in 1987 although it survived well into the '90s on a few locos, with the CIÉ roundel replaced by the IR 'points' logo. 4. Which Class of Locomotives was given this livery and did all the Class get it? The A, C, 121, 141/181 and 071 Classes and most of the B101s Sulzers. 5. What type of coaches were designated for the “Supertrain” livery, Mark II, Mark III, Gen Van’s and were only certain rakes of coach given this treatment? The only coaches to receive the livery were the Mk2s and Mk3s, and their generator vans. It was 1972 when the Supertrain livery first appeared, along with the introduction of the Mk2 AC coaching stock and the first Supertrain Mk3s appeared in 1984. All other coaching stocked remained as it was, although the Cravens received a minor livery alteration post-1980s. Please add any additional information or amendments you have, for example a RAL number for the Orange colour. Can I add a supplementary question; Was the term Supertrain an internal label for CIE or a marketing one for the Public?

Your layout is building up nicely, keep up the good work.

I have been searching for information on the “Supertrain” Livery with little results. There are a number of specific questions I would like answered. 1. What is the “Supertrain” livery used on locomotives and coaches? 2. What “orange” colour was used? 3. When was it introduced and when was it superseded by a new livery? 4. Which Class of Locomotives was given this livery and did all the Class get it? 5. What type of coaches were designated for the “Supertrain” livery, Mark II, Mark III, Gen Van’s and were only certain rakes of coach given this treatment? I’m sure this information is within the knowledge of Forum members and look forward to your answers. Perhaps the Moderators may consider holding information on the various Livery changes in our railway stock over the years.

Put up some pictures please to show us what you have done.