Interesting points on the cRavens coaches. I would love a few. In fact I would love several Murphy coaches in diff liveries. So far my problem has been that when I have a few quid I would rather buy a Murphy loco. I am not sure why, but I think I have a little fear that some day the locos will be very hard to get and I would rather have a few that will last me! silly I know, but the Murphy locos really are wayyyy above anything and more worth my cash than the coaches. I am happy to spray various things to pull behind them.....