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  1. I found a few old used railway tickets issued to the GSR Chief Draughtsman and his son, the later GNR Western District Engineer... The Clogher Valley one included a personal tour of Aughnacloy Works... And no matter which way I hold the iPhone when taking photos, they always turn out upside down. Any thoughts on that? Should I stand my head when taking them?
  2. Looks like it, Kirley! If I manage to dig up anything else I'll post it here.
  3. Not now, GSR - the RPSI & DCDR have been all over that end of things!
  4. An extremely reliable opinion I consulted tonight casts great doubt on them ever being anything but grey. I suspect that if any were ever red, it didn't last long. In those days, separate liveries eg the Asahi, Tara or Ammonia were unusual and private owner / reserved operator stuff generally carried the standard livery, ie grey. The photos show above both suggest grey, though with the top one it's hard to tell. While the chassis on it looks darker, maybe black, so does the wagon hogs to the left - and it would certainly be grey....the picture exposure is the wild card there.
  5. I'm not sure - I'll check!
  6. Could be, GSR.... Horsetan, I must look into that!
  7. Interesting..... can anyone here answer why we are all fascinated with it?
  8. There are a few in the scrap line. Both 124 and 134 still exist too.
  9. Interesting, waffles! Thanks. For modelling accuracy purposes, do you know (a) if initially the chassis was red as one might expect, or black? (B) when they were repainted standard all over grey ?
  10. More than we'd think indeed, Jawfin!
  11. I've a notion that one of these was painted black instead of grey in very late days. I'll investigate which one (or if I'm even right on that one!).
  12. The only one I ever saw was plain standard grey, naturally chassis / drawgear included, with white lettering. Like Taras, it's possible they were something else when new, but I can't be certain. I will investigate and report back as I should be able to find out original details.
  13. David, from the photos posted, it looks red for a start rather than maroon. Decent photos of SLNCR coaches ex-works are red, as few saw a paintbrush in the 50s at all! They weathered to a russet browny red. You might get a reasonable approximation by heavy weathering of that kit. Eye witnesses described new paint as a shade or two darker than that used by (latterly) GSR, or NCC. That would have been the opinion of jhb171senior, who saw them every day in the 50s. No lining was used, and numerals / lettering was gold or possibly creamy yellow.
  14. Interesting - didn't know that.
  15. Actually, what GSR probably means is the several 141s stored out of traffic at Inchicore. Forgot about that.... So some Expressway buses are the last "tan" in service!
  16. Plus 146 on the DCDR. I was thinking more of what IE still have, rather than preservation, but there's also black'n'tan genny van on the DCDR, if we count preservation, and another grounded one in England.
  17. Is that 1897? :-)
  18. Saw an Expressway bus yesterday which was in the recently replaced red, white and orange livery. It recalled to mind the original "Expressway" branding in the 70s, when CIE simply replaced the cream on the upper panels with what looked like standard railway orange - perhaps to make the bus look more "main line". So, public transport orange is not yet dead. It's still on some service buses, and still on the stored 201s in Inchicore, as well as the odd window frame on a grey 071!
  19. Incidentally, the operation of the Enterprise locos in unfinished livery is not a new phenomenon. From IE's inception in 1987 for several years it was possible to see locomotives with the new "set of points" logo, but still no white "tippex" lines. One 141 had CIE badges on the ends, and IE logos on the sides!
  20. Presumably any 201 can be hitched up now that HEP is no longer needed?
  21. Ernie and I got that from the same source! :-)
  22. Black, GSR, for GSWR locos. The GSWR green (as now on the DCDR's 90) was discontinued after about 1895. Lined black from then until about 1918. Plain grey from then on, and into GSR days, then CIE. The MGWR had lined green, though by the time the GSR came along, some MGWR engines were also lined black.
  23. I remember interviewing the late Billy Lohan, former GSWR fireman and later GSR driver. I asked him what his first memory was of the railway. "There were six J15 in Tuam", he told me, "and I had to polish them until the lining shone". I thought he's old, he's confusing it with something else. Then I realised - he's talking about 1914! The all-grey appeared some time after 1918 and stayed until the end of steam.
  24. Those locos were by far the main power on the Achill line from opening (1895) until the D16s took over about 1905. They were also used on the Killeshandra, Athboy and Kingscourt branches a lot. In GSR / CIE days, I'd say a bit of plasticard might suffice for the Tramore "extension" to the cab. 560 retained its cast GSR number plates to the end. The others all had painted numerals in CIE days. No issues with fancy lining if that's your era, of course! Plain grey all round.....
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