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Scots Mac, if your green is a bit dark I wouldn't worry too much, as locos painted green could either fade badly, or get a lot darker with wear, depending on the amount of cleaning done, and the quality of the paint. I have seen more than one pic of CIE green locos looking very dirty in very late steam days when everything was being run down. At least one Woolwich as well as 402 ended up like this.
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Round ended vans - running numbers?
jhb171achill replied to David Holman's question in Questions & Answers
Here are a few... A hard topped Guinness van of MGWR origin photographed at Achill about 1895: No. 1868 or 1888, can't make it out. At Achill in the mid 1930s: A van with corrugated roof still bearing DSER lettering - 523. Soft top GSWR low roofed wagon - 291. Higher hard roofed short wheelbase GSWR van - 1577. -
Yes, the RPSI is 50 this year. Members will have received details of a number of celebratory events including a high profile dinner in May.
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I'll see what I can do, Rialto. The loco is absolutely filthy in the pic, though. We already know that the green would be identical to what's on Maedb at Cultra, though. The number was, of course, painted on all green locos bar the 800 class.
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I love that MED van...superb. Just superb!
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Kirkby, what a set of pictures! Stunning stuff, absolutely stunning!
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I can't understand the enormous handrails on the top front corners of those things....
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Really? It moved onto navy and cream city buses in the sixties too.... But not country ones as I recall, unless the odd P class single decker...
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The RPSI (or for that matter, the DCDR or ITG) will willingly co-operate, as it were, with anyone... However, the issue inevitably is that the "preservation equation" comes into play: Low Volunteer Numbers + Barely Adequate Finances* + Tiny Enthusiast Market in Ireland = Run What You Can Manage To Turn Out.** * Lower public market than in, say GB; less grants post-recession - not that any organisation can rely on grants to survive, no financially viable enthusiast market, high operational costs. **. Rather than what us enthusiasts might like in an ideal world!
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Interesting, minister.... It brought back a few memories. The under chassis of those old AEC lorries was galvanized, therefore silver in colour. The trailer of the mechanical horse thing is probably green, not grey, but lorry bodies were always grey as far as I recall. The side tipper thing may have a different coloured body. All mudguards were black.
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They aren't anti-diesel as such, UP; the paying public are. There is a considerable body of interest in diesels within the RPSI membership, but the hard reality is the public want steam, and the enthusiast market is commercially speaking extremely limited; this was always the case even with steam. Enthusiasts talk a lot but won't generally put their hand deep enough into their pockets to maintain all they want. The general public are there in sufficent numbers to do so.....
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Just for the record, 87 is a UTA coach, built in 1951, several years after the NCC ceased to exist. The RPSI has tended to paint it in NCC livery to match the others, but it would never have worn maroon paint in traffic. Green until nir days, then maroon and grey for the last few years of its life. While a UTA vehicle, it's design owed much to NCC styling, as this is what York Road's drawing boards would have been used to.
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The RPSI still has the Whitehead heritage rake which is mostly of NCC origin, but not entirely. One of them, ex-GSWR No. 1097, is on long term loan to the DCDR and is in traffic there. A couple were sold to GB, I think - one anyway. Rest in whitehead.
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Geordie, should you not be laying Kerry instead of Cork? I'll get me coat...... :-)
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Absolutely superb! Well researched and well done!
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The 071s are less technically complicated and spares are just as easy to get, therefore they are cheaper and easier to maintain despite their age.
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Locos didnt have drawbar numbers - only the front buffer beam. This is because tenders were often stopped. The colour pic only shows traces of lining. I think the job was poorly done and the lining was wearing off!
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You're quite right, Scots Mac - I had forgotten about that! There weren't too any that got so smokebox door numbers. I think that was probably confined to Woolwiches and 400s, but maybe 500s too.
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The very one, kirley, thanks. Note the lining to the snail and light green band, white fleet number, grey body and black mudguards. The black mudguards often had a white patch on the tips, especially if not always in post 1962 black cab era.
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good stuff, cg-Antrim, glad "Rails through the West" is giving you inspiration! Gort was indeed a nice little station before its demise... Presuming your layout will be a through station...
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The pic of 402 at Mallow certainly seems green as I see some trace of lining, though interestingly there seems no trace of the number on the buffer beam. For a free, grey or black loco that would be highly unusual. All locos were generally numbered there under all ownerships. The one of 407 I'm not sure about. No lining seems visible, and the numeral and "snail" seem clean enough - it could be grey.
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There was a photo put up here at one stage showing a lorry somewhere about O'Connell Street about 1960 or so. When the new liveries appeared post-1962, the lorries began to be reprinted the same time as the buses. The goods-hauling part, the trailer or flatbed sides, were a light silver grey. The cabs were black with rounded on them replacing the snail.
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Sounds like a superb project. Many possibilities! Many Scottish stations looked like they could be on the Clifden, Valentia, Achill or Kenmare branches. If you make the station buildings look West Cork like, i.e. corrugated iron, there would be Scottish similarities there too.
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Those look great Scots Mac! I would say, as a constructive comment, the grey was generally darker, though Senior recalls seeing a single loco sitting outside the paint shop in Inchicore in the late 1930s in even lighter wagon grey! The conversion is superb too. All you need now is a dose of heavy weathering! I don't have a scanner but I will see what I can do re getting a copy of that pic put up here. Leave it with me and I will consult those with a better "tech-head" on them than I have when it comes to computery stuff!
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Looks great!