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Indeed, Glenderg.... sigh!

The economic situation? Green, grey and orange! Green for the green fields far away, grey for the colour of the inside of an empty wallet, and orange for the only thing in 2013's christmas stocking! :-)

(Or Defiled Tricolour!)

Excellent, Minister! Flying Snail, Broken Wheel, Set o'points, Three Pin Plug, Wiggly Worm!!! Remember where you heard it first; Mr. Hardship, take a bow!

Every little helps!!! :-)

Superb effort Kev - very atmospheric! Yes, a white line above window level is all you need. And you just can't beat 141's in black'n'tan!

No probs Hunslet gimme a shout when you are! If DCDR is closed I can still make arrangements for you to visit.

Hunslet, this might help, and if you want to get a chance to see it close up it will be in traffic at Downpatrick on 17th March. http://www.downrail.co.uk/gallery1/harveycathedral08.jpg http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=3336 http://www.downrail.co.uk/gallery1/inchcurve.jpg

The reason they didn't launch it in a blaze of publicity is probably that they're ashamed of it!

Hard to believe all that was TWENTY years ago!

Excellent, Broithe! We can all picket Heuston Station with banners containing flying snails and broken wheels!!!

The coach on that was identical to Downpatrick's 836; in fact I think that one may be 837. Built 1902, GSWR.

Rare visitors to shunt there were not only the "E" class, but at least one "G"!

With sinking feeling I see, yes, it IS on the downloadable timetables. the good news is they'll probably touch the taxpayer's wallets to "re-brand" again in what, 8 months? A year?

If they put it on the "Enterprise" it will probably attract unwelcome attention from stones in Portadown!

AHHH! Folks, look at the original post. It was done in April!!! Hmmm. !!

Richie, that's good. Now I can sleep. !!

No problem John we can march through the tunnel around the M50 and hang the snail on all the lamp post,s but some how i think a meeting in a good pub would be nicer given the weather. A truly Excellent idea, sir.

Very good point, Mayner. Goods traffic didn't end when they stopped putting a broken wheel emblem on wagons!

Cue the graffiti about "ole girls"....! Having seen the mess made of one of NIRs GMs by neancderthal graffitists some years ago, and a horrible similar job on at least one IE loco and I think, a DART; while i would happily strap the "artists" to the track in front of the "Enterprise" (after they'd been made to clean it off!), I have to say the look of a heavily weathered or vandalised loco on a layout is quite interesting! That one looks amazing, a superb job of artwork in itself.

It's ghastly. Sentinel's point is correct too - I wonder did they have a "public consultation process" like they seem to want to do with the most irrelevant trivia in all areas of life nowadays? Here's one where it might have done some good. Question: who volunteers to pay tax to re-brand all those new shiny railcars on IE? Even as they run down rural services further....... maybe ONE bit of good news: perhaps the good townspeople of Nenagh, Roscrea, Cahir, Tipp and Clonmel will never have to see one!!!!!!

The GSWR crest lasted three quarters of a century. The GNR crest lasted from 1876 to 1958. The GSR crest, 20 years. BCDR - longer. Flying snail - almost 20 years. UTA crests - about 10 years each. NIR logo as was - in various forms 1967-1996 or so. Broken wheel - 1962-87. IE Set of points - 1987 - maybe early 90s, getting shorter. Three-pin-plug - over 15 years. Recent green wiggly thing - not long. So we are going to copy insurance firms and English "TOC"'s - i.e. these pixie outfits like the Grand Great Western of Cotswold and Ayrshire Train Station Company**, and change logo at huge expense to taxpayers every fortnight!! (** who own three railcars, sorry; DMUs, and each one has a different livery apart from the garish yelllow ends!) I'll just finish my tea and go. The snow's started.

Utterly grotesque. I'm going to get a load of people with Flying Snail flegs, and we're going to mount a daily "peaceful protest" outside the Dail, whadddever it takes. BRING BACK THE SNAIL!! :-)

Just checked... at least one "P" van received CIE livery. GNR 780, renumbered C780N, was repainted into full black and tan livery in Dundalk paint shop in spring 1963. I have no record of any having received green.

Yes, Glenderg, it is. The windows were originally single as shown on the first pic. The triple window on your pic was a UTA amendment I think - I doubt if the GNR amended them thus, but I would stand to be corrected. The UTA painted them brown. I am not sure what way CIE painted them, if indeed they had any - perhaps, with so many "tin vans" being built CIE had less need for them and maybe didn't use them?