Colin R

What was its number, please? Colin

I am not sure which coach could hold 100 passengers, but they sure did have three coaches that could carry 80 passengers in eight compartments. As I understand it I think the tourist coaches on the West Clare Railway had three liveries: 1 all over green 2 green lower panels and white/cream window frames 3 Red/maroon lower panels and white/cream window frames The end of the carriages was as the livery around the sides where windows are concerned. If there were no windows then the main colour was used at the end of the coach.

Hi JBH I have yet to see any of the CB&PR observation coaches with black ends, I am not sure about non-observation ends but looking at various photos I don't think any CB&PR coaches were so treated, As you have pointed out, having two distinct liveries makes for an interesting dilemma. Should I go for Green Coaches or GSR Maroon? On the whole, I am thinking more in terms of most of the free state stock in Maroon, whereas the Donegal stock may turn out in Red and Cream. The early Swilly livery of Salmon Pink and Brown sides with Red crimson ends also appeals. This will then leave me with what colour do I do the Ballycastle stock

Wow part of me could not find any new photos, but those notes need to be republished in a new book along with drawings and details of the Railway that has appeared in the model railway press over time. I bet there is still more to be found locally in Cork. Colin

The only stock list I have is from Joe Begley and Steve Flanders's book Ireland's Narrow Gauge Railway. It has 28 coaches and 34 wagons, and that is all. Colin

HI Rob. Thank you for finding the album photos. It now poses a new problem, in that there is a photo in there of coach No 42 of the CB&PR. As far as I knew, they didn't have one with a number going that high but stopping at 36, I also knew that they missed out on a few coach numbers, but unless that is down to the research in the past, I think they only had about 28 coaches in total. Regards Colin

Hi Guys I need your help, I think I have almost all the published information about the above railway, but I am missing photos or plans of some of the bogie coaching stock. What I have I also happen to have all of the types produced by Worsley Works in OOn3 ie bogie 1st or 3rd (same body shell) I also have Saloon No 10, and finally I also have 3rd Brake No 33 (the rebuilt version). Saloon No10 was different to all the others, from what I can make out, it had an extra compartment whereas all the other saloons only had one compartment. Coming on to the bogie 1st or 3rd class brake coaches it is not clear just how many compartments each of these had since I don't happen to have any photos of this type of coach. Another 3rd class coach saloon had just two compartments but looked like a normal 6-compartment coach on the outside, but it only had two doors per side in the middle of each compartment. In all, I think there are seven coaches that I don't have any details of, so if you guys have anything about the stock from this line. Thank you all in advance for any help given. Regards Colin Rainsbury

I think in the long term it will be down to the person who produced the body shell in the first place if you have their email address you could ask them if they are going to release their products again on the new Shapeways site when it opens for business. Colin

Make it 5.

If you have contacted Allen, he tends to reply the following morning if he can. Regards Colin R

I know some of you will have one or two in your collections but over on that Auction site I can see some of these coaches (Not in Irish liveries of course) are going for reasonable sums so I wonder if I should look at them to help fill up the lack of coaching stock I have at present

What was that you were saying? it is now up to £30.00 I can see a rerun coming about

One thing about 3D printing is that you would need to make sure you can fit a 21mm gauge chassis under it. The other thing would also be to try and consider what Bachman / Hornby chassis you can use under the print and just how accurate you want to be. Something else to think about would be of course to print a scale 3D print chassis block and take the bits from an above donor chassis.

I have to admit I wouldn't mind it myself

Yay thank you for that guys so interesting Colin

I wonder if it will eventually be uploaded to YouTube for those of us who won't be able to watch it on TV.

Maybe we should try and meet up over there at some point what do you think?

To be honest it is 009 and Pete has retired the layout and it sits in a garden shed, I haven't seen it since covid 19, if I can get over in the next few months I will try and take some photos of it. Colin R

Yes, there was always someone somewhere trying to go that bit further Roy Link for one but his bit was to make 7mm 14mm gauge popular a guy by the name of Pete Wilson built a full working Welsh Slate Quarry to 8mm gauge there was nothing made commercial and the whole layout was scratch built I think it was the first and only (as far as I know) narrow gauge layout to make into the pages of MRJ, sadly the layout was scrapped after a museum decided it did not have the room for the design, Pete has, however, keep most of the rolling stock at home. Over time, there have been some very inspirational narrow-gauge layouts. In my mind, the most famous Irish-based 3ft gauge layout was David Lloyds Augher Valley, and at the same time (I think it was the Manchester MRC), the Isle of Man Layout, both of which were 4mm scale, 12mm gauge. Back in the mists of time, someone produced a 4mm gauge 2mm scale narrow gauge layout, sadly any more details of that layout have been lost( I think it was called the vale or pentwan), but I think it had two steam locos one based on the Vale of Rheidol 2-6-2T and the other loco was based on the Leek and Manifold 2-6-4T. Just like the old Triang TT3, which died off when 'N' gauge was introduced, the same happened for 00n3 modelling. I notice that many current 009 loco 3D prints are based around a motor bogie with skirts, that is OK if you want to model tramways, but for me seeing the pistons and conrods moving on a steam loco makes the whole picture, No disrespect to the tramway guys but it is not something which floats my boat when it comes to general narrow gauge modelling (maybe one or two yes but not the whole show). Coming back to today one person that I have heard that is doing fine-scale narrow gauge modelling is Tim Watson from the MRC in London, my understanding is he is building a 7,92mm gauge 4mm scale layout of Lynton, I understand that he is using a Backwood Manning Wardle kit as the basis of his first loco, I have not heard much of late but as he is also working on Copenhagen Fields as well for the MRC he might not have as much time as he would like. I am not aware of any other fine-scale gauge layouts as such, but I have not included models from what I would call fine-scale modellers, since I do wonder what fine-scale modelling is all about. Colin

I am sure someone with more knowledge will correct me, but the old Donegal railway used red wagons and vans to indicate their use with railcars since they were/are very lightweight in construction. That said, I am unsure if they were used on Donegal PW duties. Colin

I am not sure if my skills will let me get to anything like the C&L photo above but it is just so modelagenic, sod's law will be that once I have managed to get one of the Backwoods C&L 4-4-oT built and running someone will bring out a RTR version. As Mayner said it was a complete railway If Hornby ever got around to producing a 4-4-0 in this TT:120 scale I could see a lot more possible models of the C&LR

Don't forget to click on the photo itself for more views

You know how it is, you start looking for something on the old Internet and something pops up like this link I hope you all enjoy over a coffee or something a bit stronger

As I understand it, yes it is, I was also told that he had to do three or four sets of etches to get enough good etchs for Kirley to build just the one loco. I did email Allen (Worsley works) and his answer was to find him the drawings and he will see what he can do

Yes, I do recall that group, I think they came to EXPO-NG at least once at Swanley there was a discussion about finer standards in 4mm narrow-gauge modelling, and I am happy to say that there are still a few who practice them. I do know of at least two sub 8mm gauge 4mm scale narrow gauge layouts under construction, one based on the Lynton and Barnstaple in North Devon and the other based on the slate quarries of North Wales. Plus, there is one 10mm gauge layout based on several 2ft 6in 750/760mm gauge lines. I think the guy behind this one has built a chassis for the old Leek and Manifold 2-6-4T. A friend of mine, Stuart Brewer, has also built a 14mm industrial railway based on the BICC cables at Belvedere in Kent the last time I saw it he had built one diesel loco and was also halfway through building a Bagnall 0-4-0ST as well. For my sins, I am currently planning a 12mm gauge layout based on Ballinamore on the Cavan and Leitrim, it could work out about 28ft end to end without fiddle yards, some things just don't go small in 4mm scale. But coming to the finer standards I think most 009 modellers prefer the use of N gauge chassis to build loco bodies on and not everyone wants to start to build motorised chassis in 8 or 9mm gauges. Colin