Londonderry Hopper

[K801]

team,

I see a 3pk "Londonderry Hopper" in the Accurascale shop.

Can anybody share some information on where this model ran?

thanks

[Galteemore]

4 hours ago, K801 said:

team,

I see a 3pk "Londonderry Hopper" in the Accurascale shop.

Can anybody share some information on where this model ran?

thanks

NE England. Londonderry family’s collieries.

[airfixfan]

The Londonderry colleries railways near Seaham. Not Irish

[MOGUL]

8 hours ago, K801 said:

team,

I see a 3pk "Londonderry Hopper" in the Accurascale shop.

Can anybody share some information on where this model ran?

thanks

The full History of the wagons is in @Warbonnet's annoucement thread here: 

 

The Londonderry is a reference to the Marquis of Londonderry, who's family ran Colliery's in NE england as other posters have mentioned.. 

[Galteemore]

There is a strong Irish connection though. The Londonderry(pronounced London-dree) family owned land in Co Down and were politically active. One Lord Londonderry was Minister for Education in NI in the early 20s, and Air Minister in London. He later hosted Hitler’s foreign minister Von Ribbentrop at his home Mt Stewart. The Nazi dignitary flew into Newtownards on a Ju52 

Edited January 29 by Galteemore

[MOGUL]

3 hours ago, Galteemore said:

There is a strong Irish connection though. The Londonderry(pronounced London-dree) family owned land in Co Down and were politically active. One Lord Londonderry was Minister for Education in NI in the early 20s, and Air Minister in London. He later hosted Hitler’s foreign minister Von Ribbentrop at his home Mt Stewart. The Nazi dignitary flew into Newtownards on a Ju52 

Wasn't aware of that.. A quick reading of the wikipedia(never the best source of course), shows a gentleman who seems to have been on the wrong side of politics both Irish and UK! 

Thank God his second cousin Winston Churchill had good advice in 1940! 

[jhb171achill]

2 hours ago, MOGUL said:

Wasn't aware of that.. A quick reading of the wikipedia(never the best source of course), shows a gentleman who seems to have been on the wrong side of politics both Irish and UK! 

Thank God his second cousin Winston Churchill had good advice in 1940! 

He being the man who sent the black’n’tans here……!

[Galteemore]

3 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

He being the man who sent the black’n’tans here……!

And gave Collins artillery to bombard the Four Courts. Mind you we got off light . I did some research about 10 years ago on the role of the RAF in Ireland 1918-22. In a file at Kew Public Record Office I discovered a proposal by Churchill to bomb central Dublin from the air using RAF DH9s with Free State markings. The aircraft were bombed up and ready at RAF Sealand on Merseyside. Mercifully the order to take off was never signed. 

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[jhb171achill]

6 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

And gave Collins artillery to bombard the Four Courts. Mind you we got off light . I did some research about 10 years ago on the role of the RAF in Ireland 1918-22. In a file at Kew Public Record Office I discovered a proposal by Churchill to bomb central Dublin from the air using RAF DH9s with Free State markings. The aircraft were bombed up and ready at RAF Sealand on Merseyside. Mercifully the order to take off was never signed. 

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“Britannia Waives the Rules” an’ all that…..!

[Tullygrainey]

The 7th Marquess of Londonderry is largely remembered, and not fondly, for his sympathies toward Nazi Germany (not uncommon among members of his class at the time who regarded it as a defence against the spread of communism) but it's generally forgotten that as Northern Ireland's first Minister of Education, he attempted to establish secular non-denominational education across the Province. He was thwarted by opposition from the established churches and lack of support from the Prime Minister James Craig and so he resigned to concentrate on running his collieries.  How might things have been different if he'd succeeded.

[jhb171achill]

1 hour ago, Tullygrainey said:

The 7th Marquess of Londonderry is largely remembered, and not fondly, for his sympathies toward Nazi Germany (not uncommon among members of his class at the time who regarded it as a defence against the spread of communism) but it's generally forgotten that as Northern Ireland's first Minister of Education, he attempted to establish secular non-denominational education across the Province. He was thwarted by opposition from the established churches and lack of support from the Prime Minister James Craig and so he resigned to concentrate on running his collieries.  How might things have been different if he'd succeeded.

Interesting!!