PTO carriages

[Wexford70]

Can anyone help identify the carriages from the 1970s (from Facebook)

 

 

[GSR 800]

17 minutes ago, Wexford70 said:

Can anyone help identify the carriages from the 1970s (from Facebook)

 

 

One furthest right is one of Bulleids tin van TPOs. Behind it looks like either a Bredin full brake/parcel van or the later 616 parcel vans which were similar, not entirely sure though.

[Mol_PMB]

OK, I've checked my spreadsheets and photo links.

The bogie van is one of three, 2559 to 2561, which were built in 1935 by the GSR as compartment composites, and rebuilt to bogie vans in 1971. 

Photos of others of this type from Neil Smith, Ernie and Jonathan Allen. 

 

The carriage on the left is interesting too, looks like a GSWR vehicle from around 1905. Few of these survived beyond 1972. But it's very hard to tell which type from that blocky image. Any chance of a higher quality version of the image? 

Edited yesterday at 16:54 by Mol_PMB
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[Wexford70]

Dear IRM can we please have .........

[Mol_PMB]

5 minutes ago, Wexford70 said:

Dear IRM can we please have .........

These 3 bogie vans are a rare type. Other similar variants with slightly different arrangements of doors and windows were more common and long-lived. 
Whilst I’d love IRM to produce ‘everything’ (and I believe Accurascale have stated that ambition) I’m sure there are some higher priorities. 
But yes, if they did make one I’d buy it! 

[Broithe]

If we do finally get TPOs, we would also need bespoke figures.

A dozen chaps in khaki dustcoats, sprinting across into Lambe's at Ballybrophy, for the pints Julia has got lined up for them, based on her detailed knowledge of the shift patterns.

[flange lubricator]

3 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

OK, I've checked my spreadsheets and photo links.

The bogie van is one of three, 2559 to 2561, which were built in 1935 by the GSR as compartment composites, and rebuilt to bogie vans in 1971. 

Photos of others of this type from Neil Smith, Ernie and Jonathan Allen. 

 

The carriage on the left is interesting too, looks like a GSWR vehicle from around 1905. Few of these survived beyond 1972. But it's very hard to tell which type from that blocky image. Any chance of a higher quality version of the image? 

The Early conversions to vans had recessed inward opening doors the later conversions had outward opening doors with container style lock mechanism.

 

[GSR 800]

12 minutes ago, Broithe said:

If we do finally get TPOs, we would also need bespoke figures.

A dozen chaps in khaki dustcoats, sprinting across into Lambe's at Ballybrophy, for the pints Julia has got lined up for them, based on her detailed knowledge of the shift patterns.

and empty beer bottles in the cubby holes..

[Broithe]

13 minutes ago, GSR 800 said:

and empty beer bottles in the cubby holes..

And a couple of chaps to stand in the field at the back, because only women were allowed to use the in-house facilities...

[Mol_PMB]

9 hours ago, flange lubricator said:

The Early conversions to vans had recessed inward opening doors the later conversions had outward opening doors with container style lock mechanism.

 

Agreed. It's also worth looking at the underframes as a clue to idenfication.

• Those which were originally built by the GSR in the 1930s have a round truss rod with turnbuckle. 
• The ones converted from early 1950s CIE-built carriages have a deeper truss made of angle iron.
• The bogie vans built new by CIE have triangulated underframes and commonwealth bogies. 

There are other variations too, of course, such as the style of the windows, and whether duckets are fitted.

 

 

[Mayner]

16 hours ago, Wexford70 said:

Can anyone help identify the carriages from the 1970s (from Facebook)

 

 

Possibly the Wicklow TPO which ran until the late 60s or possibly a working from Carlisle Pier

The final working of the Wexford TPO was mentioned in an IRRS journal, 4w Post Office Van and fish sometimes appearing at the windows on the long exposed coastal section north of Wicklow.