west_clare_wanderer Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago It looks like 215 seems most suited to mid 1970s timeframe. But I may end up ordering all three Supertrain ones and backdating the other two! 4
Mol_PMB Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, west_clare_wanderer said: It looks like 215 seems most suited to mid 1970s timeframe. But I may end up ordering all three Supertrain ones and backdating the other two! Backdating 234 would be tricky - possibly easier to repaint the black B233 if you want a Supertrain Maybach. Or for mainstream GM transplants buy several of 215 and renumber. Edited 7 hours ago by Mol_PMB 2 1
west_clare_wanderer Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: Backdating 234 would be tricky - possibly easier to repaint the black B233 if you want a Supertrain Maybach. Or for mainstream GM transplants buy several of 215 and renumber. Cheers Paul. Always best to ask an expert!! Removing the DART flashes from 227 would be a bit of a fudge which might do a job for casual observers. 1
Noel Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Bravo, been away from this hobby for 10 months. Hopefully back in it next year after home rebuilt. These look fabulous. 4
Mol_PMB Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, west_clare_wanderer said: Cheers Paul. Always best to ask an expert!! Removing the DART flashes from 227 would be a bit of a fudge which might do a job for casual observers. Yes, that’s another good option. And carefully remove the s suffix. 1 1
Noel Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Fantastic to see this news. Bodes well for possible Sulzers in the future. Bravo IRM a full house. 1
flange lubricator Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Noel said: Fantastic to see this news. Bodes well for possible Sulzers in the future. Bravo IRM a full house. We can but hope.
west_clare_wanderer Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said: Yes, that’s another good option. And carefully remove the s suffix. Thanks again. I need to do that on a couple of my 141/181s too.
ttc0169 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Two pre ordered-sound fitted 215 and 234 with three more planned, 4
flange lubricator Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Put my money where my mouth is and have ordered 4 C231, B233 , B225 and Supertrain 234 can’t believe I will be able to run a Maybach C class with a B141 B&T fantastic stuff ! 3
Mol_PMB Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, flange lubricator said: Put my money where my mouth is and have ordered 4 C231, B233 , B225 and Supertrain 234 can’t believe I will be able to run a Maybach C class with a B141 B&T fantastic stuff ! It certainly gives a new meaning to the term ‘mixed pair’! I think the two Maybachs spent much of their time on Dublin-Limerick diagrams working both passenger and freight. Most photos show them running singly but I think I’ve seen a picture of them paired up, as well as one with a baby GM.
Newtoncork Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago That is interesting. So working in multiple or a driver in each?
Mol_PMB Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago The Maybachs B233 and B234 could work in multiple with 141s and 181s. (at the time, 121s were not fitted with multiple working).
flange lubricator Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: It certainly gives a new meaning to the term ‘mixed pair’! I think the two Maybachs spent much of their time on Dublin-Limerick diagrams working both passenger and freight. Most photos show them running singly but I think I’ve seen a picture of them paired up, as well as one with a baby GM. I think they worked up and down to Limerick on a Sunday possibly as a way of swapping them they worked the Limerick- Athy cements . 1 minute ago, Mol_PMB said: The Maybachs B233 and B234 could work in multiple with 141s and 181s. (at the time, 121s were not fitted with multiple working). Not just could they actually did work in multiple with the B141 /181's. 2
lucas Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 27 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: Most photos show them running singly but I think I’ve seen a picture of them paired up, as well as one with a baby GM. 20 minutes ago, flange lubricator said: Not just could they actually did work in multiple with the B141 /181's. There's a nice photo of a Maybach B233 working multiple with B192 on p36 of Barry Carse's book 'Irish Metro-Vick Diesels'. 3 1
Mol_PMB Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago B234 was rebuilt in 1965 and appears to have been outshopped in plain black. Photo links: 1966: https://flic.kr/p/2nTQmCA 1967: https://flic.kr/p/2pwqphJ https://flic.kr/p/2pwrK6B https://flic.kr/p/2pwrbNz 1968: https://flic.kr/p/2pBSM1i ‘Mid 60s’: https://flic.kr/p/2pqVfRB March 1969: https://flic.kr/p/2pBRxTG Then it got a repaint into black and tan with deep tan band and roundel with small numbers on the sides. December 1969: https://flic.kr/p/2pBRxU3 March 1970: https://flic.kr/p/2pBScsA It carried this scheme until at least 1973, and was then painted in supertrain livery by 1976. 234 got a standard GM engine in 1979. https://flic.kr/p/2pwDB7m B233 was rebuilt in 1966 and was also outshopped in plain black. Photo links: 1968: https://flic.kr/p/2pBQxg4 Vague dates: https://flic.kr/p/2pvuTfi https://flic.kr/p/2pqVfRM https://flic.kr/p/2pqWT7P It gained yellow ends by 1969 and is seen here in 1970: https://flic.kr/p/KPwwoM But later in 1970 it got a full repaint into the same scheme as B234: BnT with deep tan band, roundel and small numbers. Seen here freshly outshopped in September 1970: https://flic.kr/p/nim47B Also around 1972: https://flic.kr/p/2rsAFpY https://flic.kr/p/2rszwcy https://flic.kr/p/2rsAEKG Back one here: https://flic.kr/p/2rszwfz In 1973 B233 got repainted again into Supertrain. Photos show it in service in this livery in 1973, 1976 and 1977 (I posted some of these upthread, here they are again): Here’s another 1977 image: https://flic.kr/p/2pBScLS It had a couple of years out of service before getting a GM engine in 1980. All the photos linked here are in Limerick, Dublin, or places in between. I’d be most interested to see photos of them further afield. 1 1
flange lubricator Posted 41 minutes ago Posted 41 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, lucas said: There's a nice photo of a Maybach B233 working multiple with B192 on p36 of Barry Carse's book 'Irish Metro-Vick Diesels'. There is also a picture on the cover of Journal 193 of B189 leading B234 at Sallins on an up Limerick in Dec 1965. 1
flange lubricator Posted 30 minutes ago Posted 30 minutes ago There are some in the O'Dea Collection Holdings: B234 on 9 railcars, Sallins, Co. Kildare. :: Library Catalog Holdings: B234 and GM on 5.45, Hazelhatch, Co. Kildare. :: Library Catalog Holdings: B233 on 545, Hazelhatch, Co. Kildare. :: Library Catalog 1
leslie10646 Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago Even though the announcement wasn't a GNR Compound, I wish Fran, Patrick and colleagues all success with this little loco. They'll fly off the shelves, for there isn't a "diesel-age" "Southern" layout was shouldn't have one, at least. Mind you the scale 80mph is nuts - I doubt if one was ever timed much above sixty mph - if ever. To mis-quote (?) Starlight Express - a Really Useful Engine. To add to the photographic evidence, this is one of Lance King's shots on a Sunday in Cork in 1959 at Glanmire Road. Copyright IRRS. By the time the C Class reaches these shores, you should be able to have a decent fist at recreating this scene. Mum's the word ........ 3 1 1
Mol_PMB Posted 17 minutes ago Posted 17 minutes ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, leslie10646 said: Even though the announcement wasn't a GNR Compound, I wish Fran, Patrick and colleagues all success with this little loco. They'll fly off the shelves, for there isn't a "diesel-age" "Southern" layout was shouldn't have one, at least. Mind you the scale 80mph is nuts - I doubt if one was ever timed much above sixty mph - if ever. To mis-quote (?) Starlight Express - a Really Useful Engine. To add to the photographic evidence, this is one of Lance King's shots on a Sunday in Cork in 1959 at Glanmire Road. Copyright IRRS. By the time the C Class reaches these shores, you should be able to have a decent fist at recreating this scene. Mum's the word ........ What a wonderful train! Thank you so much for sharing that image. The green bogie van I may be able to help with. Edited 16 minutes ago by Mol_PMB 1
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