ex BR mk2's

[StevieB]

Does anyone have information about the alterations done to the two mk2b FK's to produce buffet/snack cars 4401/2? There is a photos on the VCT website but it isn't very clear whether the windows that were filled in were on the corridor side or not.

Many thanks.

 

Stephen

[seagoebox]

some more CIE Mk2 pics...

And for reasons of balance..... a few Executive NIR Mk2's...

[flange lubricator]

On 31/8/2021 at 5:00 PM, Warbonnet said:

 

If anyone can provide photos of former BR Mark 2B or Mark 2C coaches they may have in their collections we would love to see them!

Picture from Nigel Curtis of BR 19512 (FK downgraded SK) which became Irish Rail 4109

 

[railfan222]

On 9/9/2021 at 7:05 PM, seagoebox said:

some more CIE Mk2 pics...

And for reasons of balance..... a few Executive NIR Mk2's...

In one of those pictures above I see a orange and black bodyshell with 2 double leaf doors in what appears to be Inchicore Carriage Building Shed. Was that the bodyshell for the proposed Mark 3 based railcars or a mock up of the push pull intermediates with double leaf doors?

 

Regards Kian.

[flange lubricator]

Yes its the side of the mock up of the MK3 pp

[railfan222]

2 minutes ago, flange lubricator said:

Yes its the side of the mock up of the MK3 pp

Wow it is kind of very odd that in the end they (IE) decided not to build the Mark 3 Push/Pulls with double leaf doors. I do wonder why they did not proceed with this?

 

Nice to see that whenever IE bought former MK2s in 1990 and the former BREL International Train coaches in 1994, the semi state company (IE that is)  had the staff do refurbish them up. Rather than getting them done up in the UK by contractors.

 

Now I do need to ask the following since I am curious

 

Q1: Where the Inchicore built Mark 3s made out of steel from Ireland or the UK?

Q2: Is the carriage shop at Inchicore now the FCR (Fleet Casualty Repair) shop? The FCR shops in Inchicore are where loco and coaches getting repairs done on them.

Q3: In that picture of a 111 stopped at a red signal with a feather, where was that photo taken?

 

Regards Kian. 

[NIRCLASS80]

Q3. Looks like Lisburn

[seagoebox]

Q3, Yes up platform at Lisburn, the train then headed to Knockmore for posed photographs, and then on to Ballinderry to run round before returning to the Central Services depot. I got a picture at the closed halt of Brookmount on the way back from Ballinderry

[DJ Dangerous]

On 13/12/2014 at 1:43 PM, flange lubricator said:

Irish Rail Purchased or swapped 16 in total with Vic Berry for 14 ex Irish Rail B201 metrovick locos in 1990

 

4101 mk2/2a second open converted to 64 seat open

4102 mk2/2a second open converted to 64 seat open

4103 mk2c first open converted to 54 seat open

4104 mk2c first open converted to 54 seat open

4105 mk2c first open converted to 54 seat open

4106 mk2c first open converted to 54 seat open

4107 mk2c first open converted to 54 seat open

4108 mk2/2a Second open converted to 64 seat open

4109 mk2b corridor first converted to 54 seat open

4110 mk2/2a second open converted to 64 seat open

4111 mk2c corridor first (scrapped following fire at inchicore)

4112 mk2c corridor first converted to 54 seat open

4113 mk2a corridor first converted to 54 seat open

4114 mk2a corridor first converted to 54 seat open

4401 mk2b corridor first converted to 37 seat Buffet

4402 mk2b corridor first converted to 37 seat Buffet

 

All were air braked so they could not run with existing mk2d fleet which were Vacuum braked.

 

Dutch vans 3162, 3163, and 3166 were converted to run with them as 4601 , 4602 and 4603.

 

What's the difference between a Mk2/2A Second Open and a Mk2/2A Tourist Second Open, when talking about donor coaches?

Are there external differences or only internal differences?

[Galteemore]

TSO has four seats across, arranged 2+2 either side of a central aisle, while an SO has 3 seats across, arranged 2+1 with an offset aisle. Both offer the same legroom, but there is slightly less width per passenger in a TSO. That’s what Wikipedia says anyway…..

[DJ Dangerous]

2 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

TSO has four seats across, arranged 2+2 either side of a central aisle, while an SO has 3 seats across, arranged 2+1 with an offset aisle. Both offer the same legroom, but there is slightly less width per passenger in a TSO. That’s what Wikipedia says anyway…..

Sounds like they're the same externally, so.