Mark 3 Rake

[DiveController]

Could somebody please remind me the typical make up of a rake of Mark 3 coaches as they would've been hauled? Obviously there would have been a generator coach on one end and a restaurant at some point in the rake. Were there six other coaches and which ones? And was there a typical formation?

Many thanks

Edited September 19, 2015 by DiveController

[ttc0169]

Could somebody please remind me the typical make up of a rake of Mark 3 coaches as they would've been hauled? Obviously there would have been a generator coach on one end and a restaurant at some point in the rake. Were there six other coaches and which ones? And was there a typical formation? Many thanks

 

A typical formation was--EGV, Compo, diner,followed up to six standards,OR

 

EGV,diner,five standards,and spare diner.

[DiveController]

Thanks, Noel. Was the first section of the compo next to the diner or EGV? There were also some first coaches. Where did they fit into the rake or were these used only in specific routes/times only?

[Glenderg]

Compo mk3?

 

My recollections are coach a was first, coach b was either Cafe/bar or a restaurant. Coaches c to f were standard open, and the egv was either behind the loco or at the end of the rake.

[josefstadt]

DC, the 1st Class section of the compo would, generally, have been at the EGV end of the coach.

 

On the Cork line the consist on the principal trains was (from the Cork end): EGV, CityGold, Catering, 6 Standards.

[RedRich]

The MK111 Compo always ran behind the EGV with the first class end behind the EGV on the Dublin Waterford route. The first class end doors had the first class stickers, and the standard end doors had the IE logo. The roofs were painted grey also.

 

 

 

Rich,

[aclass007]

Did MK2's have a typical formation?

[ttc0169]

Did MK2's have a typical formation?

 

Yes Michael-during early days of operation.....In later years any formation would be put together,the only thing that could be relied upon was that the EGV was either the first or last coach....

[Junctionmad]

Yes Michael-during early days of operation.....In later years any formation would be put together,the only thing that could be relied upon was that the EGV was either the first or last coach....

 

my experience of mk2s was first, restaurant, + standard classes and EGV

[RedRich]

I remember seeing a MK11 set in Bray hauled by an 071, all in the IE livery. The consist was Loco-EGV-First-Restaurant- Composite- 3 Standards in that order.

 

Rich,

[ttc0169]

I remember seeing a MK11 set in Bray hauled by an 071' date=' all in the IE livery. The consist was Loco-EGV-First-Restaurant- Composite- 3 Standards in that order. Rich,[/quote']

 

Yes Rich,

Generally sets that were used on the Sligo and Rosslare services were kept in that formation,

When used on secondary services in particular from Heuston-they were mixed up,

I remember the refurbished Galway liveried Mk2 set being about the only Heuston based set in a reasonable formation from there introduction in 2001.

[hurricanemk1c]

Some formations from my years spotting:

 

7601 7168 7405 7401 7140 7106 7142 7122 7141 (Heuston - Galway, 4/8/07 with 082 on the front)

7610 7170 7404 7139 7117 7138 7107 7102 7115 (Galway - Heuston, 4/8/07 with 201 on the front)

7608 7170 7404 7139 7117 7123 7138 (5/10/07, unknown working but possibly 1725 Heuston - Limerick seen at Portlaoise at 1833, with 212 on the front)

7611 7133 7406 7145 7145 7149 7131 7101 7150 (0735 Limerick - Heuston, 29/10/07 with 217)

7604 7167 7407 7155 7116 7158 7108 (0735 Limerick - Heuston, probably a few vehicles missing, 14/2/08, with 201)

7607 7172 7410 7135 7134 7103 7144 6208 (Seen at Heuston, 14/2/08)

7608 7165 7408 7120 7125 7116 7140 7154 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 22/2/08 with 078)

7611 7156 7408 7125 7113 7120 7154 7110 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 28/2/08 with 220)

7613 7104 7409 7143 7112 7136 7129 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 7/3/08 with 204)

7611 7156 7408 7125 7113 7154 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 18/4/08 with 086)

7613 7104 7409 7143 7112 7136 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 2/5/08 with 213)

7611 7156 7408 7113 (more than likely some missing there - 1735 Limerick - Heuston, 6/6/08 with 073)

7606 7104 7409 7143 7112 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 13/6/08 with 205)

7615 7167 7407 7158 7108 7118 7115 7144 (0740 Limerick - Heuston, 23/7/08 with 204)

7124 7142 7137 7146 7403 7133 7608 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 29/8/08 with 216)

7610 7104 7409 7121 7143 7125 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 17/10/08 with 211)

7614 7129 7411 7144 7112 7118 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 7/11/08 with 201)

7614 7169 7411 7139 7119 7107 7129 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 5/12/08 with 201)

7613 7168 7158 7148 7412 7163 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 19/12/08 with 212)

7604 7166 7405 7122 7130 7106 7120 (1735 Limerick - Heuston, 16/1/09 with 204)

7605 7172 7406 7132 7140 7144 7120 7106 (Heuston, 19/2/09)

7615 7411 7113 7121 7146 (IRRS / Railway Childern Railtour)

 

If you have the time, go through this thread - http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/topic/912/MK3-News?page=1#.VgGtI5eIXK4. Something to suit all train sizes!

 

As a guide:

7101-7103, 7105-7106, 7108-7132, 7134-7146, 7148-7155, 7158-7164 are Standard Class, 72 seats

7107, 7147, 7157 are Standard Class with 64 seats, with 7147 having a wheelchair space

7165-7172 were the Composites, 32 1st Class and 36 Standard Class

7104, 7133, 7156 were the Citygold vehicles, 48 First Class seats

7401-7416 were 29 Standard Class Seats

Edited September 22, 2015 by hurricanemk1c