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56 minutes ago, leslie10646 said:

While there may have been a short intermediate period of ownership, I believe that they DID all end up in the "South".

I must have a look  in the GNR wagon book which shaded in some wagon numbers to indicate where they went - if my memory serves me.

Des Coakham was the man to tell you these things and I'm pretty sure I checked in 2007.

Yes, the whole fleet did indeed end up with CIE, and were thereafter treated as a common fleet with their own "H" vans. An initial allocation to the UTA was on paper only and as you say, quickly altered - if, indeed, any sort of UTA allocation was ever actually made "official" at all. It may not even have been.

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20 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

if, indeed, any sort of UTA allocation was ever actually made "official" at all. It may not even have been.

I doubt if they ever saw the North in UTA days. I daresay this was arranged in advance. The uneven split of the BUTs always puzzled me and until I read that they had been exchanged for the cement wagons I imagined all sorts of possible explanations for that. This was the only direct exchange at the breakup of the GNR(B) I have ever heard about but there may have been more.

Or perhaps there should have been more as both organisations might have stood to benefit.

Or perhpas everybody would have bentefitted if that whole shambles had been avoided completely.

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30 minutes ago, Markleman said:

I doubt if they ever saw the North in UTA days. I daresay this was arranged in advance. The uneven split of the BUTs always puzzled me and until I read that they had been exchanged for the cement wagons I imagined all sorts of possible explanations for that. This was the only direct exchange at the breakup of the GNR(B) I have ever heard about but there may have been more.

Or perhaps there should have been more as both organisations might have stood to benefit.

Or perhpas everybody would have bentefitted if that whole shambles had been avoided completely.

Senior told me, back in the day, that there were a number of similar adjustments, but perhaps only relating to one or two locos or vehicles, but I am unaware of any details without perusing some lists I have somewhere, in detail.

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