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IRRS Journal No. 54 Feb 1971 €5 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT IRRS Journal No. 62 Oct 1973 €5 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT Limerick and Kerry Railway €10 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT The North Kerry Line €10 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT Irelands Railways Past and Present - Dublin €5 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT Rails Through North Kerry €7.50 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT Rails Through The West €7.50 The Railways of Ireland Past and Present - Dublin €7.50 CIE Working Timetable 1983 €15 Irish Railway Rambler €7.50 Trains, Coal and Turf €5 Rails Around Dublin €5 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT Falling Gradient €15 SOLD PENDING PAYMENT Payment by PayPal only unless collecting in person where payment can be in cash. Postage at cost in all cases, but cheapest option by far for books (especially for more than one book) would be Parcel Motel. Can give some discount for multiple purchases. PM me if interested in any of the books.

If you were to buy an Irish wagon kit, by the time you add in glue/solder, necessary tools to make it and paint, not to mention time, the IRM wagons are very competively priced, in my opinion, for such a niche market. Also, the quality of the IRM offerings, so far, is on a par, if not better, than some of the bigger UK model manufacturers. I never thought I would see RTR Irish wagons to be honest, so to now be able to buy such high quality ones in RTR, is amazing in itself, and personally I have no issues with the pricing structure to date. The IRM lads are putting a lot of effort into their offerings, so it's only fair they should get some return on their time and investment, plus they put smiles on a lot of modellers faces too.

I think IRM do 250 packs of each set for the Irish market (but I'm sure one of the IRM crew will confirm). For the UK market they probably do twice, three times or maybe more of that amount of each set due to there being a much bigger market. It's like anything really; the more you buy or get made, the cheaper it is.

Brilliant. Just simply brilliant. Really interesting but effective way the buildings are formed.

Just gets better and better.

Love the photo of the blocks of flats. Such a Dublin design that you can't but identify where it is set. For me, this is the best Irish layout I've seen to date. The modelling is absolutely sublime. Be interested in finding out how long this took to build, considering its large size.

That's pure class. Love it. Work close to there, and that's an amazingly good resemblance to that stretch of track alright.

Thanks Fran. I think Dead Kennedy hit the nail on the head when they said it's hard to see such top drawer models become available but not in the livery of your chosen era. I have nothing but respect and admiration to the four IRM team members for taking the risk to set up IRM initially, and also for taking the risk for such a niche item as the plough vans. I also fully appreciate that IRM is a business after all, and needs to be run with a 'business' rather than a 'modellers' head, and your explanation for going with the IR and IE liveries for the plough vans makes a sound and valid business case in anyone's book. I look forward to giving IRM a good chunk of my bank balance for many years to come, and long may the top drawer IRM model releases continue.

All valid points, Garfield & Co. However, the post on this site re. the 2018 releases did state the plough was being released in original CIE livery, so was a little surprised and disappointed when this wasn't so. In fairness, I said there was an IR/IE slant overall in what was produced to date AND what is to be released in 2018. The ivory bubbles may have CIE logos on them, as that's what they carried to the end, but the dates on the service codes are all in IE era on the models. The only true CIE era model produced to date is the orange bubbles. As I've stated, the launch of IRM got me back into modelling as I never thought I'd see Irish wagons being produced in RTR format, and I like everyone else, appreciates the huge gamble the four IRM lads took in launching the range. As I've already stated, I don't want this to sound negative as it's merely an observation/ constructive comments.

Fully agree. It's amazing to see RTR Irish wagons being produced to such a high standard, but there does appear to be a definite slant towards the IR and IE periods in the actual and planned releases so far. I'm in the exact same position in that I held off buying ballasts initially as was fully sure that the earlier CIE brown livery would be produced and now find myself scrambling to find ballast wagons that I will most likely have to repaint. IRM 2018 announcement said plough van was to be produced in both older CIE and later I.E. liveries but then was disappointed to see painting diagrams only show IR and IE liveries to be released. Forthcoming Guinness wagons again only carry the I.E. era cages, spoil wagons are totally I.E. era and even the weedspray rake is I.E. era. All savage looking models, but not suitable for modelling the CIE era. Happy that at least that the forthcoming fertilisers and 42' Bell flats fit into CIE era, and I might even buy a weedspray pack to backdate the tanks to CIE period, but at the moment, will hold off on Tara's until blue livery is produced. Maybe the majority of interest among modellers lies in the IR and IE eras, but pretty sure that a survey on this site last year showed the CIE era right up there with the IR and IE eras. I got back into railway modelling thanks to IRM, and the prospect of RTR wagons being available, but have to say that I'm now considering if modelling the CIE era (my favourite period) is still a runner or if I need to start modelling IR or IE era, as freight has always been where my interest mainly lies. Some modellers will model all eras and some will only model one era, and I fit into the second category. As the previous poster said, this is nothing negative towards the IRM lads, as I realise they have to make financially sound decisions on what models or liveries to release, but more an observation or constructive comments.

CIE version also had another difference to the model proposed in that there was half doors on the entrance either side. Not a total deal breaker, but something to consider if you plan on doing a CIE version from either the IR or IE versions that IRM will release. Leads me to yet another question, drawing shows IR liveried version with the doors, and I've seen a photo of one of them in early 2000's still with doors, so will IR liveried model come with or without doors? Apologies, Fran et al, must have your heads wrecked with all the questions at this stage.

Thanks BSGSV. Aware of that FB thread. Some good information in it as regards signalling. Discovered a while back that the signal cabin wasn't actually the signal cabin and the smaller adjacent shed was actually where the signalling equipment was housed. Strange setup.

When were the grills fitted to the windows as these were not present when originally built, but I guess many panes of glass replaced over time necessitated them being fitted? Will the grills on the model be glued on or will they be easy enough to remove if you wanted to backdate the plough? Also, any idea when that 'No Admittance' sign was applied? Plan to model a CIE version so trying to figure out which version of the plough would suit best from the two releases?

Would anyone have photos of Cabra Cement Sidings that show the buildings that once existed on the site? I have sufficient photos of the silos to construct these, and a few of the signal cabin, but its the two other buildings that once existed between the silo and where the signal cabin would have been located that seem to have been camera shy, as all I can find is photos that show them far off in the background. All I have at present is a rough idea of the external shape of these buildings. An interior shot of the signal cabin would also be good. Pretty sure I have stumbled across any photos that currently exist online of this location. Think a couple of railtours maybe visited this location back in CIE days or even unofficial visits by enthusiasts happened back then, so someone may have some old shots lying around that they might be willing to share. Any help greatly appreciated. PM me if you dont wish to post stuff on the forum. Thanks.

Have a Pack A of Irish Cement branded bubbles that are outside the period that I intend to model, as Irish Cement branding on the bubbles only existed from 1987 onwards. Just throwing it out there to see if any interest in swapping these for a pack of ballast wagons, preferably Pack 3. If interested, PM me. Thanks.

Thought IRM were doing these in CIE initial livery with CIE logo and no window bars.

That kit actually looks half decent. However, won't have half the detail of the TPO that IRM release in the future

Looking for good condition copies of CIE Working Timetables for 1979, 1980, 1981 and 1982. PM me if anyone has any of the above that they wish to sell. Thanks.

CIE built coaches, of which there were many variants, are bound to be popular. Currently no kits available of these, and not on Murphy Models or IRM's plans for the current year at least. Also, you will find drawings of these carriages shouldn't be too hard to find.

Excellent selection of releases IRM. Take a bow. Couple of questions..... Will the livery on the ferts be as pictured? Will you be producing the older type of keg carrier? Will the weedspray pack be produced in current livery or older CIE type livery? Unsure when the livery details changed or indeed when current version of weedspray train was introduced. No interest in the spoil wagons personally as too modern, but a nice addition to the range. Ferts, plough vans and 42' definitely of interest to me. Weedspray depending on period modelled. Thanks lads and best of luck with the new release programme. Sure to be a winner.

Just to add to Richie's reply, if you zoom in as far as possible on a photo of the orange bubbles, you can actually make out the stencil marks. Considering the small distance between the parts of the stencil letters on the protype, as Richie mentioned, that's impressive. Almost invisible to the naked eye on the model, but still there all the same, allowing for the tolerances of the tampo printing.

Thanks for the detailed reply, Richie. I assumed that you guys had researched the wagons as much as was humanly possible. To think that you even know about the different widths of the stencils used is impressive to say the least. As to the full alphabet of CIE wonky text, what can I say except you guys take this modelling game to a whole new level. Like I said in an earlier post, this really is the golden age of Irish railway modelling.

Thanks JHB. Actually thought myself that most of the orange bubbles were stencilled as well, but all of the IRM orange bubbles seem to be solid letters. Maybe one of the IRM lads can advise what they found in their research. The stencilling did find its way onto the bubble in Pack B.

Well so it is. Thanks Rich. Looks like mould must have been altered to locate it to correct location, which is good to see.