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MM 5604 & MM5608 both have orange roofs No black roofed S/T coaches as far as I am aware

MM5604 MM5608

The next 4 coaches MM 5223 Standard MM 5403 Diner MM 5604 EGV MM 5608 EGV

Long time since I had my ticked punched by anybody

Des Thats probably why it took 30 odd years to get her mended !!!

So Shade of orange aside, any one see any problems with these 4 coaches I think they are grand, I ran a rake of them in the MRSI last Weds and there were no complaints

Lima HO 4F Paul Came all the way from Italy to be told its Snail was on arseways!

Pic taken in Headhunters, Enniskillen.

Whereas I agree fully with the last 2 posts and in particular Flange's one I also must feel for Murphy himself The work that went into this production is not adequately reflected in the product that was received Can anyone here imagine that MM signed off on these coaches after seeing and handling his previous efforts? One thought that strikes me is that somewhere along the line something has changed, be it the management of workers in the factory The foreman or whatever on the production line is the man to blame, he obviously saw the product as it left the line and passed it fit for purpose The first we see is when they arrive here after their journey from China and there is nothing to be done, they cant be sent back and they have been paid for up front, Obviously they can be sorted as Glenderg has shown but how do I ask for another €10 or so to have what should be a top model "fixed" ? Personally I an happy with them and several have gone into my collection However my main worry is that may affect MM's relationship with his manufacturer in China and therefore will it ultimately affect the production of the 121's and A's?

Me and technology, should have gone to Specksavers...

The new Mk 2 coaches MM 5101 Ist Class MM 5151 Composite MM 5201 Standard MM 5215 Standard

Looking at my own ones, the Snail is a lot smaller Bottom of loco says No 43, 1970 Lesney Products & Co.Ltd Coach says No 44, 1978 Lesney Prod & Co Ltd

Saying nothing O86 & 161 088 Original Livery

Just been looking at the new coaches They actually look better than the pics from the MM Website Probably pre production pics They are only " bleedin rapid ":dancing:

Mk 2 Supertrain Coaches will be available here tomorrow

First show of a new season this Sunday folks

Ray If you are from Wicklow check out the Bray Wheelers clubrooms, off Boghall Road this Sunday Lots of Railway stuff there for sale, from locos to track % transformers. Even a guy there who makes the baseboards to run them on Check out the "Whats on" thread which should give you more info

D'fhéadfadh go mbeadh Dia trócaire ar a anam

Could be as soon as Saturday, but probably Monday just to be safe Not as many as previously made so some may run out sooner than before

Paul Bite the bullet and get a Silver Fox one The Lima one is a toy and whereas the S/Fox has its detractors it is an awful lot better than a Lima If you get a baccy fitted chassis, happy days I will look for my Q Kit one and bring it along on Sunday and you can compare it to a S/Fox and Lima one

Think the forum is getting a bit antiseptic lads If a couple of people want to air their views, let them at it Couple of lads here I would love to give a lash to but my good upbringing refrains me from doing so Not even handbags drawn and the mods are dishing out yellow cards The aim of argument or of discussion should not be victory, but progress

Exactly Rebelred The coaches are not in the shops yet and the usual knockers have their knives out already, Jesus wept! It really gets on my goat. It kills me to agree with Blaine but he has hit the nail on the head, pony up or shut up