Kirley

Thanks for posting the drawings, can you give anymore information on this one please?

Thanks JHB, great selection of photographs.

Looking good Ben

If you watched my previous video you would have seen my 071 Class had slippage when pulling a Liner Train up an incline when I added the new SSM Barrier Wagons at the end. Many thanks for all the suggestions but Hunslet came up with trying the Barrier Wagons at the beginning and at the end of the rake (as they would be in a rake of Ammonia Tankers). So here's the result. As Supertrains are the main topic on the Site at the moment I took a few shots of a rake of MK III's in this livery, (don't care what colour of orange they are) and the Taras also got a run behind an 001 Class (in Supertrain livery of course). Many thanks Andy, you are a true Locomotive Driver.

The above information on the Park Royals above is very helpful but could I have some further clarification on these delightful coaches please. Am I right is saying that looking from the outside the only way you can tell a Suburban coach is the numbers (1379 to 1418) and the lack of a 'frosted' (Toilet) window beside left hand door? Also that both the Suburban and Mainline versions had the circular window plated over in the 80's and the Mainline version had the toilet window beside the door reduced in size?

No George they are all Skaledale buildings painted in Red Oxide roofs and White walls to represent typical Northern farm buildings.

Thanks Andy, that's worth a try, I'll report back with the result.

The picture refers to MED No.18 built 1953

Thanks Irishthump, all the Hornby's have Bachmann bogies with metal wheels.

Thanks for the suggestion, the Flats are MIR resin frames, Hornby Freightliners, cut down and 5 SMM brass kits. The Barrier Wagons have brass bodies and at 184g each add weight on the tail of the rake. Without them the 071 has no difficulties.

Looking forward to this one, you are off to a great start with Eoin and Dave's impute.

Just measured the length of the track (3300mm) and it drops (30mm). Hope this makes sense.

I don't know, my build was a generic one, I did not plan ahead which was not a good idea but I never had any problems with long rakes before.

Thanks Des. I wonder if anyone has done a weight test on a 071, i.e. what weight can it pull on the level, that would be interesting? An Ammonium Train, 6 tankers @ 900g + 2 Barrier Wagons @ 368g =1268g, I might have run mine downhill only.

A train of Flat Wagons by MIR, Hornby Conversions and five SSM's new 42' Flat Wagons getting a run round Kirley Junction. As you can see in the video I got some wheel slippage from 086, a first on my layout from an 071 Class. I have some testing inclines on my layout and I think the two barrier wagons at the end were the cause. Each Barrier Wagon (including Flat Wagon) weighs 184 grams against the 071 weighting in at 503 grams. I hope Weshty's Ammonium Tankers are light in weight otherwise I might have difficulties on some sections of my layout.

I haven't seen a U2 in that livery before, you did a great job on it.

Superb as always.

A lot of hard work Tom but the results are plain to see. Nothing beats copying from the real thing.

Inspiring work.

Sad news JHB. The obituary sets out a life of an age gone by and you have lost your sounding board. Please accept my condolences.

If you don't get enough information there try the Irish Traction Group http://www.irishtractiongroup.com/index.html

Thanks Guys, so as regards to Logos nothing was set in stone....anything goes?

Great find

Unfortunately I have had no response in trying to fill the gaps on my table so I'll try another approach. I take it the photo below is of Bredin coaches, note no Logos on the coach sides. The first 2 coaches in this photo are Park Royal's, again no Logo other than the "Passenger Class No." Any ideas on the remaining ones?

Yes Dave, that's it behind the Wagon. No transfers though.