Mol_PMB

Have you still got a stock of them?

Aha! So that's the origin of them. The supply has now dried up, sadly. Though I'm sure modellers around these islands have some sets stashed away in boxes.

That's coming together very well!

Like this?

Arch60 (former 4Dmodelshop) that I use for custom etches are able to duplicate the buffers as white metal castings. Would anyone else like some, if I get some made? Here are the originals:

I've just weathered the roof. I used an experimental technique and it seems to have worked reasonably well. I masked off most of the body with tape, and then dabbed on Maskol for the top edge, so that it was slightly uneven. Then I did the spraying, a dirty brown/grey mix over the whole roof but heavier in the middle, followed by 'rubber black' focused around the exhaust. It seems to have given the desired effect - with the edge looking like it has been cleaned slightly unevenly: A bit like the loco in Ernie's photo here:

Derailers, sometimes used in place of catch points. They would be worked in association with the position light signals on the post nearby.

To be fair, I've not been diagnosed with OCD, but I do have an obsession with detail and I suspect I'm somewhere on that spectrum. I find modelling very helpful. My work also requires a lot of attention to detail and the hardest part is when there isn't time to do a job to the standards I set myself. Anyway, I'd better get on with some modelling!

Buffers are a complex shape though - would need a multi-part mould I think? And fragile in resin. It's not something I have any experience of. I'm also wary of stopping progress on the loco rebuild because bitter experience of my own uselessness is that if I stop now the bits will sit in a box forever and never get finished!

Is there a firm that would do that? I have no experience of making castings?

Short answer - Railtec sheet number 5710. Long answer - that isn't what I used - see the diatribe below... I drew my own artwork for these, shaping each digit individually based on dozens of photos (OCD in action again...). Then I got them printed by Precision Decals. I offered the artwork free to Steve at Railtec too, in case he wanted to produce them commercially. It was at that point I discovered that he does produce something similar - sheet number 5710: https://railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=11581 I have found it hard to search the Railtec website effectively for Irish items. You can only search for one word or phrase (no and/or functionality). Sometimes they are listed as 'Irish' or 'Ireland' but there are many Irish items labelled CIE, such as the broken wheels. However, a search for 'CIE' returns hundreds of irrelevant transfers - so many that the ones you actually want are off the bottom of the page, and there isn't a 'next' button... (FYI, broken wheels are in sets 5605, 5606, 5607). So that's my excuse for not finding this set on the Railtec website! Anyway, I like my custom ones better. The differences in the shape of the numbers may be small, but I know mine are right. Steve's are pretty close though. Anyway, back to 156, here's the prototype at Ennis in the late 1980s, about to haul me to Limerick. This is about 15 years later than the period my model represents; by this time the loco had been repainted and received unshaded numbers on the cab fronts, and the roundel moved down to the 'standard' position. Also it has an S suffix to the numbers on the sides, OHLE warning flashes, upward-facing headlight and the tablet catchers had been removed.

Many thanks @Rob R I’m using kadees so the buffers are mainly visual. At present I think I will do the buffer swap on this loco and see how it goes. The idea of producing more of these buffers is very appealing! Cheers, Mol

All I can do is apologise. Again. I am sorry.

Interesting thought. Years ago I did a bit of Irish O gauge but used the American scale as it was closer to broad gauge. An Atlas switcher on flexicoil trucks had the right style of bogies though not 100% perfect. It looks like the US version of the Flexicoil is now available as a 3D print: https://3dcentraltrains.com/products/51001-flexicoil-p48-emd-truck-atlas-o-upgrade-kit

Another warranty voided. A perfectly functional Murphy 141 class now in a million bits. I have removed the cosmetic bogie frames and the fuel tank and started the weathering process on them. Also I removed the wheelsets, dismantled them and reassembled with new longer axles, Gibson carriage wheels and some spacer tubes to keep the wheelsets central. Removing the body was quite an ordeal involving an excess of swearing, but eventually it came apart. I scraped off the old numbers (149) with a cocktail stick, and renumbered it to 156 using some custom transfers I had printed a while ago. In this case, it is correct to have the large shaded numbers on the front. I've also removed the tablet catchers and repainted them, ready to refit. I found that Precision Paints gave a better match to the Murphy orange than Railmatch did. I've started the weathering process on the body, running a dirty wash into the crevices. There's plenty more to do and I'll get the airbrush out tomorrow. I'm aiming for a loco that was recently repainted but has got a bit grubby in traffic and then been well cleaned on the bodysides and ends, but with a grubby roof and bogies, something like this 181 from Ernie: It's interesting that even this pair specially prepared for a royal train still have grubby bogies! 156 ought to have its roundel a bit higher up than the one on the model, and I'm trying to decide whether to scrape them off and add new transfers in the correct place. It's tricky as they are under the handrail. I have some Railtec roundels which are the right size but are very 'orange' - they match the paint. These roundels faded quickly and the printed Murphy models roundels nicely capture the faded colour. Hmm... I have not yet taken the plunge and tackled the buffers. I need to decide whether to hack then off and replace with unsprung, larger ones at the correct spacing. Or live with the ones that are already fitted. I was only able to get one set of the correct type and they're no longer made, so if I do the modification it will be my only 141 with correct buffers. Also I'll need to refit the coupler pockets into the front valance. More tomorrow, hopefully.

I’ve had to resort to doing some modelling instead of keyboard bashing!

With a Murphy 141 on the bench in front of me, I note that the buffers look too close together, and too small. I have a set of Appleby Model Engineering 141 buffers in my stash which are a bit longer and have a bigger face. They look a better match to the prototype. However, they're solid cast metal rather than sprung. Has anyone on the forum tried swapping the buffers and resetting them at the correct spacing? How did you get on? Or is it just me with this level of OCD? Probably! Cheers, Mol (photos from Jonathan Allen and Ernie on Flickr)

Presumably this was before rolling stock needed different signalling/comms equipment to travel cross-border?

I have spent most of the afternoon having a grand tidy-up and clearing the decks for some holiday projects. As well as more work on the layout I will be working on some rolling stock, as a have quite a stash of things to work through. A little progress on the layout this evening has seen the lighting extended to the fiddle yard, focused on the sector plate areas where I'll need to align the tracks: I have been transplanting a few trees to get the best look. They all slot into holes in the board, so at they stage they can be moved, but once the groundcover is done then they'll be stuck in. Here's a general view of the layout. The end pieces of the fascia have been made and are shown just clamped in place. I still need to do the top and bottom sections: One of the jobs on the list for this week is to regauge the Murphy 141. I'll also fit a decoder and kadee couplers, and renumber it to 156 which is a personal favourite of mine and was also one of the first to receive the supertrain livery. It will be suitable motive power for a bitumen train. And a bitumen tank is another project for this week. Watch this space. This length of train will fit on the sector plate and the loco can also run round it in the loop. It's short but not unrealistically short for this branch, and feels like it's in 'scale' with the layout. If there are already some wagons in the sidings when the train arrives then the shunting could be quite involved. Anything much longer doesn't fit. As an alternative to the 3 wagons, I could also have 2 30' coaches, or 1 bogie coach. When I start thinking about visiting railtours (to add operational variety) then the one real example was a bogie coach and a tin van. Another nice (but fictional) rake to model would be two old 6-wheel coaches and a tin van. To handle those, it would be possible for me to extend the sector plate by 6" or so, overhanging the end of the board. But now I'm thinking too far ahead - I'll leave that to the future if it seems necessary.

Lovely modelling! Maybe they’re all trying to work out a story to explain the missing crate of beer?

This looks very impressive!

Now you’re making me thirsty!

Or indeed when browsing eBay!

Many thanks for your kind comments! On this layout with a viewing angle across the tracks, I suspect the gauge difference wouldn’t be so obvious. But having to build my own track enables me to choose finer rail profiles, more natural turnout geometry etc, and it all helps. The gauge is more obvious looking along the layout - this is the view from the fiddle yard, which is a similar view to most of the prototype photos I have of this location:

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