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2508 was an ex-DUTC single decker converted to a railbus for the Cashel branch. One of the GSR Brake-3rds was wired for Drumm trains, and I seem to recall a Drumm being wired for railcars but not successful. The "Named Trains" would probably have had the more recently shopped carriages. They also had carriage nameboards, which I suspect nobody would have been anxious to change around between carriages on a regular basis. I have the impression that utilisation of stock at this time seems to have been fairly low, with mainline train sets making just one round trip a day.
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I thought so too, so I had a read last night. There were another ten, not too long later, but there's no list of them. Two of these were GNR vehicles, but it appears were withdrawn too quickly to receive their numbers. 2491 became 4054 later still, and that's the last 4xxx number I know about. I have seen some nicce colour photos in the IRRS photos of 4xxx series numbers in a siding in Cork for Cobh services, 4027, 4036, 4043.
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If you haven't encountered this already, this thread may also be of interest: C.I.E. 32XX Conversions
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The 4000's were "Secondary Stock" vehicles. These were older vehicles which were previously identified by CIE with an "S" suffix to the number, but which were renumbered in the 4xxx series later. A few GNRI carriages made the 4xxx series which was mainly GSWR and GSR stock.
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Hear, hear! Amd many thanks to @flange lubricator and @seagoebox too. Thank you for all your work.
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I seem to recall seeing something in passing, and with no details, about a proposed "cut-off" line from the MGWR to the GSWR line near Lucan, after 1945. I don't know if there was any truth to it, or just a mis-interpretation about something else, as I've never seen any further reference to it.
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Downpatrick's 836 was a gangwayed Open 3rd, but the corridor connections weren't re-instated by DCDR. 836 was gas lit, 1124 seems to be electric.
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As the railcars were vacuum braked they could be loco-hauled, and were at times. From memory, IRN has pieces referring to use of railcars as loco-hauled coaches for a relief train from Waterford to Dublin, and on the final day of the Thurles - Clonmel line.
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Singling on the MGWR started on the Navan branch during WW1 (to get rails). On the main line it went west to east, then the Mayo and Sligo "branches". It carried on in the 1930's. There was also GSR singling Limerick - Limerick Junction, Waterford - Fiddown, Sallins - Naas, Newcastle - Wicklow and probably a couple of others I've forgotten, mostly before the MGWR was done, so that probably accounts for the GSR records you were looking at. The IRRS archive in Dublin holds GSR weekly circulars which include the dates of singling of individual sections.
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Heritage Railways in the Republic of Ireland
BSGSV replied to Celtic_transport's topic in General Chat
I don't know what the doom and gloom is about. Re-opening closed railway lines at significant costs per kilometre, for the taxpayer, is currently very fashionable... ...as Greenways. -
Double, Portadown Junction to Armagh, and later also Clones to Monaghan. Single elsewhere, and the double line appears to have been singled in the early 30's, except from Portadown to Richhill.
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1915 is the date for carriages according to a Brendan Pender article in the IRRS journal (61), in that 1290 appears the earliest built in the new numbering, and was 1915. Don't forget the TPO from 2950, and the GSR brake compos 2490/1. The Park Royals went to 1948. And 1949 was the last (RPSI, GNR 9) in the 2000's.
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Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive
BSGSV replied to Glenderg's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
Didn't work between closure of the W&T and conversion to an Ambulance carriage. -
Yes, It is Gort. The shunter "missed" dropping the handbrake on it as it went into the siding, and it hit the stops with a bang, which left one axlebox bent out. Couldn't move then... The delights of unbraked stock.
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Making an ‘E’ – the Maybach Diesel Model Assembly thread
BSGSV replied to Mol_PMB's topic in Irish Models
I'm more familiar with mainline locos, but pipe colours would be blue for water and green for fuel oil, as you say. Air is yellow, electrical is brown. Hence the yellow air receivers. Exposed pipes might well lose their paint. -
Making an ‘E’ – the Maybach Diesel Model Assembly thread
BSGSV replied to Mol_PMB's topic in Irish Models
I may be wrong, but I think I see a number just to the right of the works plate. -
Branch line possibilities in the Black’n’tan era
BSGSV replied to jhb171achill's topic in General Chat
The C class was bought for branch use, and closures reduced the need for them, so a lot were out of use by the end of the 60's. A branch surviving would probably have had one in preference to a 141, which would have been out on main line work. A railcar set was used on Thurles - Clonmel. 60's carriages GSW or GSR or early CIE built, with 70's early-CIE. Alas, most of these are not RTR - yet! However, what RTR is available would not be much hardship while you wait. God bless all the manufacturers, who continue to amaze with the gaps they are filling. -
Not sure about model intermediates, but for prototype information you could try here: https://www.railcar.co.uk/
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Peculiar CIE Rolling Stock
BSGSV replied to DiveController's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
I think oil gas was still used in one or two of the carriages of the old set that would come out on the Dublin Suburban on Summer Sundays and the like? Also, there were probably older diners which needed it for cooking/heating, even CIE built ones, which got converted to calor gas in the 1960's. -
Single lines, block sections, travel times, and train frequencies
BSGSV replied to Darrman's topic in General Chat
As I understand it, the guys in NIR tried very very very hard to get the money to make it a double track structure at the time, but couldn't swing it. Alas, with the way it was done, it now also seems very difficult to double without building a viaduct throughout for the extra track. -
God bless your eyesight if you can see the back of that train well enough to know! Looks like a 6-piece set, 900, trailer, 700 series, two trailers and another power car.
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My apologies. The preceding posts were about the chassis and that's what I was commenting on. With the benefit of hindsight, I should have known you were asking about buffer spacing!
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Very different from each other on the prototype too! As a general comment, I am a bit taken aback at the heat that seems to be there regarding the buffer spacing, given most folk seem to use tension lock or kadee or similar to couple their vehicles. I would notice these rather more than buffer spacing.
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Yes, the aluminium one does look like an ITG production which were produced for selling on the sales stand on railtours, and also got kept by some to put on their wall, as the mounting studs on the real ones make that a slight problem. Some were also drilled and used on the preserved ones, A3 and A39, as the originals had disappeared by the time the locos came into ITG ownership.