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Virtually all DSER, GSWR, MGWR & GNR(I) six-wheelers were 30ft. The NCC likewise as far as I know, in fact this was an irish standard. Oddball as always, the BCDR & CBSCR differed, with various longer ones (up to 37ft!) on the BCDR and various shorter on the Wisht Caark system. In both of the latter, irrelevant to the subject matter here as they tended not to travel. The balcomny-ended four wheel yoke you mention was once the pay-carriage end of one of the GSWR's 90 / 91 / 92 / 99 / 100 locos.Two survived as such; I think they were off either 91 or 92, ansd 99. So common was the 30ft length railwaymen in the past almost NEVER referred to these carriages as enthusiasts do today, as "six-wheelers". To railwaymen, this was obvious! They called them "thirty-footers".

I think I know the gent you mean! He did a seriously good job for me with some stuff a few years ago....

You're absolutely 100% right on that and all here will understand and support that. There's a spare hurl in the shed outside I can donate to the cause....

The light green van again, and all three. I’ve a few more I’ll fish out and post to compare, but it’s very easy to see how it could be perceived even back in the day that no two were painted alike!

Not quite sure whether to post this here or on the "Dugort Harbour" thread, but it's relevant to here in terms of Mol's excellent detail on liveries and weathering. In particular, it assists in dispelling the oft-heard myths about various railway liveries - especially GNR loco blue and the two varieties of CIE green being, in fact, a multiplicity of endless different random shades. As I've poimnted out before, this was never the case; the apparent variations stemmed from several things: 1. Varying weathering. 2. Varying reactions of the lead in the paint with what surface they were painted on. 3. What they were exposed to; brake dust, harsh salt air, both or neither. 4. Most importantly, the massive variation in the degree to which colourt slides have retained true colours today - or, as in MOST cases, not. There are a number of reasons for this, the main one being cheap versus expensive colour film available in the 1955-65 period, but that's for another day. Anyway; herewith some of the vans used on Dugort Harbour; these three are Hattons Genesis ones. The black'n'tan one is as yet untouched, as it's intended to look as if it is just repainted, although some light brake dust will be applied to the chassis and ends once I get round to it. The two green ones are in the 1945 (dark) green on the right and the 1955 (ight) green on the left. The bogies are the SAME colour as the van on the left above.

Maybe 3D printing might be the future for tin vans?

Personally, I've never dealt with them online, so I am unable to comment. I suspect many of our older folks here might be the same. It's easy for me to get a Dart into town and walk round the corner from Tara St to Hawkins St, so that's what I always do. Like ttc019, I deal; with Mark C and always get vey helpful service. Looks as if whatever way they do online stuff is the villian here, not the shop. Was only in Greenogue once, having found it by chamnce as I was visiting another commercial premises nearby. Great selection of stiff there, but I was only browsing that day.

I think a 141 is an obvious "go-to" for a first RTR "0" gauge liesel. For steam, probably a J15. In both cases they cover the widest area possible, numerically large classes, the longest timescale and the greatest number of uses from shunting to goods to beet to branch lines to main line passenger.

Superb! Can you do an ICR like that?

“Uncle Mick! What’s in them boxes?”

“It’s a J, must be 115, yer man O’Neill from Tralee was driving. She’s across the loop points at Glengarriff, so we need to unload this lot outta the van and send it by road….” ”What, the whole way in a lorry?” ”No, Ned drives it up to Rathmore and loads it on the up goods…. line won’t be open till they get the Cork breakdown crane….”

Now, Leslie, the kids that are on here wouldn't know who Ted Heath and Gerry Fitt were...... sure those lads wiould remember the Fintona branch! A wise choice for bystanders... More to Combe?

Out of curiosity what’s a typical winter temp and also high summer, and does it drop much at night?

My second place of abode in adult life was what was a new-build in 1995. It had oil central heating and also an open fireplace in the living room, which had a back boiler. One a single occasion we had a power cut, which stopped the oil heating working, and we fired up a great big wood, coal and turf (ah! Memories!) fire. Plenty of hot water as a result for taps, amnd baths for three children. On the other hand, that house would not be A or B rated today - possibly D. Having said that I now live in a house which is 100% electric, and I do feel vulnerable. An open fire would scarcely be used in this household, as nobody ever sits long enough in one place to apprexciate the benefit of it - but it would be good to have. I still have a little turf left and can get more......

Did he lick it clean?

Presumably they have locals from Dundalk stopping at it. I doubt it’s remotely worth the extra expense to have the electrics go further until the day comes (1st October 7018) when they electrify the whole Belfast route.

I have it, but don’t tell them.

I can only pin it down to several tenths of a second…..

I’m speechless; this is truly outstanding work.

No, the earlier “G”s never carried a “snail” either in silver OR green. The green livery of G611 at Downpatrick is fictitious in three ways - 1. Only the G601s ever ran in green, never the 611s. 2. Even if they had, G611 has black side frames (should be green) 3. The snail and small number on the cabside is entirely wrong; should be large number and no logo. When first in traffic the G611 series were black’n’tan. The tan band disappeared on SOME of them (not all) a few years later. When the last three were in use in the mid / late 70s, 611 & 616 had no tan band, but 613 did.

Happenings the other day…. The photo is of the forerunner to the GSR’s “Woolwich” K class - the South Eastern & Chatham Rly’s N class in England. It’s personally signed by Maunsell (bottom right).

I'll fish them out today and PM you both.

I may have a couple of brass kits of Bredin coaches here to sell if that's any good. I would just want whatever they cost me in the first place (from Studio Scale Models) which i'd have to look up.

Very sad news, but as WRENNEIRE said, it was known that this was coming. Nothing I can add to what's been said above, other than re-emphasising that he truly is the "grandfather" of modern Irish railway modelling. Without him, we'd probably still be painting British class 47s and French electric locos in orange and black.... I very much enjoyed the all-too-few conversations I had with him. Rest in Peace, Paddy.

Ya will boy!