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Absolutely brilliant job!! Wish senior could have seen this - he got samples of the paint in the carriage shop in Inchicore for his coarse-scale 0 gauge models (long since disposed of, unfortunately...)
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Your secret is entirely safe with all of us here......
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It would depend on the track plan, NIR, and the use. If it was a busy passenger station, that’s one thing, but a goods yard could be a ground frame only with no signals.
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The one with the 6-wheel coaches intrigues me, as the one extreme left appears to be one end of a DSER coach. The others are either Midland or GSWR. I don't think any DSER six wheelers were still about by 1960, so could that pic have been taken maybe about 1957? I don't think it's Inchicore either but I could be wrong. -
Does the bird have kadees, and does it run on 21mm gauge track? The shade of orange is wrong, and the corridor connections aren't the right type........
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The armoured RUC land rovers always add a very authentic touch to any northern-based layout of 1970-90!
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Remember the republican and loyalist graffiti! I often imagined a 1980s-based NIR layout with one lot of graffiti on one side of the track and “themmuns” on the other!!
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Jhb171Senior (whom you may remember) was a big 0 gauge man. All gone now, unfortunately, beautiful old coarse scale 1920s stuff. I could be tempted - but where to put it!
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The Derry Road would be a great advantage now. The Donegal scheme though, like many similar proposals, is indeed a pipe dream, and one of the more unrealistic and unviable ones ever dreamed up!
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Absolutely professional job, Ken! Yes, the profusion of grey would indeed have been less than colourful, from the mid 1910s until the mid 1970s... But we’ve gone right back to it - from orange, black and “tippex” 071s to plain grey ones!
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Can you get those in 00 scale?
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The postcard above is indeed a “colourised” one. The wagons would all have been plain grey in that pic, standard GSR ones. Since the loco doesn’t look to be lined, though more importantly when this line was opened, it too will be plain grey, albeit a much darker shade, looking almost black when dirty. The multicoloured wagons are a fiction for Ireland, in all of the very few places coal was handled.
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Amazing place indeed, and Sean is a gentleman. Not sure if he’s into models though, but I’m sure he’d be extremely welcome here.
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CIE didn’t have actual dedicated coal wagons, other than some GSR or GSWR built loco coal wagons. Out in traffic, ordinary open wagons were used - wooden bodied until early 60s, but from the late 50s the corrugated Bullied opens were used.
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Yes, brake dust thrown up on the ends of the wagon. Given the lighter shade of grey used on H vans & “palvans”, it was even more apparent. But four wheeled railway vehicles were more likely to show it up.
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Yes, one went to the Tramore line for bikes and prams. Ends & chassis black. Roof either black or a very dark grey. A van like this would be very heavily weathered in real life, as they rarely saw a paint brush!
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Well, a van like that is absolutely appropriate for such a scenario; indeed, it's likely its the same one that was on the opening train in 1899! The livery will be well shabby by then - the light green lines in that livery were lined in thin black and gold lines, and the "snail" in gold only. The logo I use beside my name on this site is a photo of an actual flying snail transfer, so use that; the green it is mounted on is authentic Inchicore paint, as now seen on "Maedb" and various preserved buses. Ends black and roof dark grey; both weathered, though, to a nondescript dark greyish dirty colour.... Superb work.
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Now that is an absolute beauty! Will it be finished in Midland, GS or CIE livery?
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Absolutely superb! The clip in Mayo referred to above was, I think, between 1949 and a few years later.
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RIP! It just left the Wisht Clare..... Pitt that didn’t survive (apart from Moyasta, of course)...
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It was the pre-55 green, as seen today on 800 in Cultra and several preserved CIE buses. An exact sample (actual CIE paint) is on the “snail” on my logo on this site, which is a good quality (in terms of light) photo of the mounted flying snail displayed in Headhunters Railway Museum in Enniskillen. Jhb171 Senior got this done in Inchicore about sixty five years ago. Lining was the same EDN with black & gold lining, as on carriages and buses. i stand to be corrected on this, but I’m nearly sure that ends were plain unlined green, as you suggest, with the lining on sides only (despite the whole vehicle being like a biscuit tin on wheels). Carriages, on the other hand, had black ends.
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I detest that term "international" that the RPSI has used for years - why not call it the "May Tour" like just about everyone does!
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The Little Sugarbeats
jhb171achill replied to tonybonneyba's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
It's an NIR 80 class railcar acquired from NIR, for long term restoration. The one to its left is another. the remaining two-car set is now restored and the interior being worked on. The four 80 class cars are all at Downpatrick. The reason this one is yellow is that after withdrawal from passenger use by NIR it was used as part of the sandite track maintenance train, spreading this compound on rails in autumn to prevent wheel slip. NIR now have a new machine for this purpose, hence its withdrawal. The 80 class were introduced in 1974 and 1978 and withdrawn from normal passenger use about ten years ago. -
Interesting, I didn't know that! A bit of Isle of Man, Lough Swilly and CDRJC practice in the south east.......
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No - the border didn't exist until after all the railways were built. Having said that, the introduction of the border in 1922 would have killed it stone dead, had it been built. Its new cross-border status would have stopped it becoming part of the GSR, though, unless the actual bit that went across the new border had already been closed after only a few years (like the Welsh Highland). This would, of course, have been entirely possible!
