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Back to the Hattons 6-wheelers. Lately, it's been asked / discussed on this forum, who models the DNGR. As possibly expected, despite Greenore's absolutely perfect setting for a medium sixed dockside terminal, the answer is few if any. With those thoughts in the back of my head, while researching something unrelated in the last few days I came across a picture of an older type of DNGR six-wheeler which unlike their normal design, which was pure LNWR, this one was more akin to the "generic" Hattons type, i.e. GSWR-esque in proportion and appearance. This, of course, lays open the possibility that since Hattons already do LNWR liveried models of these, it would barely be necessary to do a new run of them. So, behold, an EXISTING ready-to run rake of DNGR coaches! But take the six-wheelers, not the four wheelers; while the LNWR had these, the DNGR didn't.

Wow - that's thicker than a Kerry accent - or porridge! Excellent story! In a past life, I briefly worked in Carrickfergus, Larne and Ballymena - so I've heard that accent to an extent I can follow a good half of it! I knew this little man from Glarryford (or, as he called it, "Gloorreeford"); he always swore that village was the single best place on the entire planet........ so forget your Iguassu Falls, Rocky mountains, or lakes of Killarney!

Now that would indeed be interesting!

Correct. There were chassis design differences too, though I’m not fully aware of the technical details. The Rosslare stuff was, of course, long pre-GSR.

Is it near Tunnocks Island? (Sorry, DCDR “in joke”!)

The area has traditionally been flood-prone. While the town has hilly parts, as the name suggests, the railway entered the town across the flood-prone River Quoile Estuary, and just west and south of the town skirts this area, which was actually at one time the coastline of a long since flooded inland bay. Thus it is low lying. The station, being on the western side of the town, was also built on low-lying ground and has always been prone to flooding even in BCDR days. The DCDR was estabished just less than 40 years ago. There have been floods at the modern preservatyion site before, but they have caused more inconvenience than actual harm. This time is different. As a member, I sent off a donation today. Every member will agree, please all of us send what we can; this is a unique and highly interesting railway with a fantastic collection of locos and rolling stock which can no longer operate on the main line, and thus will not operate anywhere else.

Yes and no. At Dromod, their locomotive has always been wood-fired - which obviously saves a fortune in fuel. However, speeds are low, distance is very short, and loads are very light, and it's flat. If you're looking at a very small engine over a hundred yards or so, that may be a solution. Turf - apart from the current ecological debate - doesn't work so well in loco fireboxes and to operate succussfully would need massive modification, possibly not soable on a given locomotive. For a loco the size of 186, I can't say for sure but would suspect that it wouldn't be satisfactory. Stradbally use a sort of biomass, but while again suitable for a small narrow gauge loco with a small load and a short journey, this would not be suitable for a bigger loco, as I understand. 186 may well work again, as little would be required to put her back in traffic - but 184 certainly won't. If 186 does, it'll be on the main lines, so she'd get a chance to stretch her legs (wheels!).... Oil burning - major work to convert, the result being still expensive to run and maintain. Also, like the turf, the environmental police mightn't be so keen.......

Most interesting stuff!!

My initial thoughts were “gawwwd, look what they’ve done with the original, and still GNR-painted, timberwork”. However it transpires that they WANTED to preserve it - but it was riddled with woodworm. So, to a bonfire, unfortunately.

In 1915, this was the public train service on the GNR’s Co Down lines. A few pics of Ballyroney station, currently under restoration, and Ballyward today.

Yes, just a 3-car, and jam packed.

ICR on the 17:05, this one with no first class.

227 + 9003 seen heading south at Porteedown. ”S” class 173 and five bogies on the down Cavan, and there’s an SG3 adding a number of Provincial Wagons to the Derry Goods…..

Coach A - food servery in 1st class. Upgraded to 1st to have quiet, breakfast and a doze. Standard class packed, 1st only a few. BUT - there is a table of four LOUD “shopping women”. Near Portadown, and not one of them has shut up for a millisecond. And they’re right next to me. Despite being hard of hearing, I hear every syllable of non stop babble…….

Seems quite well filled leaving Connolly…… Breakfast ordered!

Tis an ICR with 1st class. Nice breakfast smell - hope it’s not just a trolley service.

I’ll report back shortly! I’m on my way to get it now….

BR blue is the only show in town for this yoke, as far as I'd be concerned! Indeed, the only show in town for most British stuff.........

Is the 10:00 northbound on Sundays (tomorrow!) likely to be a railcar or a De Dietrich?

They can always be attractive static exhibits, even if unsuitable for use.

Never knew an ICR had got to Antrim!!!

It can run alongside ICRs even, on a modern image layout using RPSI livery Cravens, on RPSI specials….. Once the very essential AEC railcar is available RTR, a “Jeep” will provide the necessary accompaniment for a UTA-era layout, now only possible - and even then to a limited extent - with kits and scratch-builds. A much neglected part of our railway history would then be covered.

184 would need a complete rebuild; most of it is worn out way beyond the point of being restorable, and will thus remain an exhibit at Whitehead. However, the economics of preserved railways in Ireland - even in Downpatrick, never mind very remote places like Maam X (or, for that matter, Moyasta or Finntown) are such that operation of a steam loco any bigger than a sugar company O&K, are light years beyond uneconomic. To light up a loco like a J15 alone eats several hundred euros worth of coal, unfortunately. Despite the resources behind Maam X, it is economically more sensible to operate as, perhaps, a narrow gauge line. In addition, well-insured covered accommodation, complete with coaling & watering facilities and inspection pit, as well as reasonably equipped workshop facilities, would have to be provided in advance, before a steam locomotive of any type could be brought in. Dealing with Downpatrick’s finances for some 11 years tends to be just as sharp a learning curve as a longer period doing the same for the RPSI!

8208 on Enterprise this morning, with 8209 spare outside Connolly shed - it was zebra 231 two days ago.

You’ve one o’them wireless things?