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Top class models!

Always thought that was a very elegant design..

"Senior" recalled a day at Kildare watching such things, and then getting the train back to Dublin. It was running very late and was headed by a J15 with a couple of bogies and a couple of six wheelers. It set sail for Kingsbridge and took off like the clappers. I can't put my hand at present to the timings, but the loco comfortably topped 60 on the way...... not what many would expect from a J15, but back in the day not unknown.

I'd love to see a RTR J15. I'll sell me house and buy 111 of them!

They were quite modernistic looking, Liverbird - hard to believe that their chassis were many years older!

Couldn't agree more! Timely, with 6111 going to the DCDR - at last!

I'm not sure if handrails were actually delivered with them or not, but they certainly didn't have them until after repainting; numerous photos exist of them in BnT but no handrails! This could be due to the initial idea that they would operate nose first, but contradicting that idea is the fact that they started operating cab first long before handrails were fitted....

They must truly have looked strange to enthusiasts of the day!

They were delivered like that, all of them, but repainted in Black and Tan at first repaint. They therefore only bore that livery a very short time; I think the last to be repainted was about 1967/8. Originally, as you can see, they didn't have side handrails either. The wagon is a standard pattern GSR one of 1930/40's origin. A few remained in traffic until the large number of "H" vans were all in traffic. Therefore, that picture is taken between 1962 and maybe 1966. In Ireland they were used as main line locos, not shunters; in latter years often running in pairs with each other or members of the 141 or 181 classes. 124 and 134 are preserved.

I would be strongly inclined to agree, Mayner. As close as you can see on that picture of the Duckham's tank, it looks like it. New build tankers by then would have probably had an entirely different profile.

Here's a day out for you, based on old notes of one such, some seventy five years ago. A 400 class takes you to Cork, first of all; and you're sitting in a "new steel" coach (= Bredin type). Walk from Glanmire Road across to Albert Street for a look; it's several years since the Passage line closed now, and the track hasn't been long lifted. Cross the street for a look into Albert Quay, but that's routine stuff. Been on the West Cork before, will do it again. Time to walk to Capwell before returning to Albert Quay. A quick look round there, but no time to how to Western Road today, as we have an appointment back in Albert Quay. As we await, a quick look up into the Waterford-style "overhead" signal box. Now, it's time. Up into the cab of a 2.4.2 tank of GSWR ancestry, for a spin out to Macroom with empty cattle wagons. These are to be left out there for the next fair. Footplate jaunt to Macroom, dump the wagons and back in the guard's van - an ancient wooden GSWR one. Back to Dublin that night in an old wooden GSWR first class coach, with a different 400 up front. Departed Glanmire right on time, arrived at Kingsbridge about a minute early. And they didn't pass a solitary ICR en route...... Some years later, the Macroom line closed, and the route of it is now partly flooded by a reservoir.

Will do, Kirley.

Buried Macroom loco? Pray tell.... if I've heard that one at some stage I must have forgotten all about it!

Not just that, Warbonnet, but 400s and 500s on all sorts of traffic, 4.4.0s as well - and from the mid twenties "Woolwich"'s too!

Work away, Nelson, a pleasure to assist!

Senior (Snr) went off walkabout one day in 1902 armed with a pass from Inchicore. Here are the notes he prepared in advance....

Sorry, meant to reply earlier. It's CDRJC Nos. 35 - 38, four "lavatory composites" built by R W Pickering & Co. in 1905. The last survivor, 38, was sadly scrapped in 1957. These were probably the most elegant coaches to run on the system, apart from six-wheel saloon No. 1, which of course now resides in Cultra. They were 36 feet long, weighed 12 tins, and carried just ten trust class and twelve third class passengers. 35 and 36 were withdrawn and scrapped in 1952, but 37 had been sold off as a "hut" in 1949. Are its remains still lurking in some hedge up there? In the frontispiece of E M Patterson's excellent book on the CDR, one of them is depicted in the frontispiece; surely the quintessential Donegal picture of all time.

Seal of the Dublin & Meath Railway Company, 1858.

Those grain wagons were originally grey, Burnthebox. In fact, when I took that picture at Rock Street it was the first and only time I saw one in orange.

Above and the following: Heuston Goods. Neither a 747 bus, roundabout, portakabin or "park-by-text" machine in sight. In those days, text was in books and newspapers, believe it or not! And that dog WANTED my ankles. Badly. Nearby, an E plays with coaches. Meanwhile in Connolly.... And meanwhile in de rebel shtate boy I know, I know.... but a 450 has been preserved. Same comfort levels. Ghastly, ghastly things to travel in. Lisburn, 08:35 all stops to Central, 1977.

The NCC breakdown crane in NIR maroon about 1972. I think I took this at Ballymena. Maroon paint, NIR logo; no gaudy bright yellow then, thank goodness. With all my wittering on about the importance of the availability of accurate historical livery information, and the ongoing failure of the preservation organisations to take it seriously, I have to hold my hands up and confess here. This is the RPSI's iconic, and fascinating, "Rosslare Express" relic, GSWR 861 of 1906. It never wore a livery remotely like that and nor did anything else here.... but.... yes, it was I who played a hand in painting it; my first ever job in the overall preservation world. As I've said here and there in defence of those who do the same - it's often a case of the person who can be bothered to turn up and slave away is the man who decides - or, a case of just get it painted because it's needed for a tour, and maroon is what's there.... Guilty, m'lud. Headford Junction, Co Kerry, June 1978, from loco cab.

These are the ones which wouldn't post earlier plus a few more. First one's for Nelson! I think it was taken either during a 1938 visit, or about 1942/3. Again, I should be able to establish exact dates and locations once I have gone through various lists. Port Laoise, 1977. Demolished very soon afterwards. The next few are Ballynahinch Junction, 1978. All obliterated now. Ballynahinch Station, June 1978. Old UTA (or possibly BCDR) signs still above bricked-up doors. They are in faded UTA green as far as I can see, probably not BCDR green - though I wouldn't rule it out. It's interesting to see "freight office" instead of "goods office" on a sign dating from at least the 1960s.

No problem, Colm, your detective work is appreciated. I've a few more, including this one of the H & W diesel towing an NCC railcar, as a passenger train apparently; presumably it had failed somewhere. I don't know the location but may be able to find out.

I'd say that on that morning, wanderer, they would have needed a ballast-thawing machine instead of a ballast cleaning machine!

It was indeed the only one, Kevin; it was an unsuccessful experiment. I'm not sure how long it took to raise steam, but I would guesstimate 5 hours. It ran on turf alone.