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Leslie, replied to your email. K

Possibly a Monday morning in Italy? (it probably happened on other days of the week too) All the snails should have the left hand wing uppermost rather than on the bottom. All of these look wrong. The (correct) flying snail would be the same on both sides as the coaches ran in both directions. However, on tenders the upper wing of the snail always pointed forward to the locomotive. All of these snails would only be correct in only one position own this set, and that is in the RIGHT hand side of the tender

Were you planning to use the excess strip or just cut it to the length required for one coach? The only downside I see is the size of the 3xAA batteries which is bulky. Might certainly have an application in lighting buildings or platforms where the box could be concealed though

It would probably be cheaper (and not too hard but a little time commitment required) to lay a closed foam underlay for noise reduction and ballast the track using PVA glue when you have decided on a final layout. Playing around with the design for a while may be helpful to ensure it continues to stimulate your interest and enjoyment first.

I decided to start a new thread rather than continue to discuss the C Class on the very informative thread started by jhb on the A Class Metrovicks here; Liveries, headlights and wipers were discussed here http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/5384-Symphony-in-quot-A-quot-July-1975-Drogheda/page6 I realize that not every one may have a copy of the excellent but now somewhat rare® book by Barry Carse on Irish Metro-Vick Diesels (Colourpoint, 1996) but for those that do or know, can you please comment the following; There is a silver connection on the yellow bufferbeam of C203 in black livery in November 1968 (p36). This is described to be for train heating with certain coaches 1) Waas this peculiar to C203 alone or did other C/201 class locomotives have this connection? 2) Did C class locomotives supply HEP to the train? 3) Electric or steam heating? 4) Which 'certain coaches' did it supply heating to? Thanks, K

Yes, quite correct. It's 1981 in Supertrain and 233 had its GM engine installed the previous year. No porthole rear on the RHS. Just the three:) I doubt that 234 has on a fourth either

Apparently the then new Park Royal coaches were turned out in 'silver' for a time. Michael Baker's book appears to show a pair of "10' 2" wide unpainted suburban Park Royals" on a Dublin suburban working from Dun Laoghaire in 1956 (Railways Past & present Dublin p34)

You can't post on the site from that phone, Dave. Needs an upgrade;)

Do you happen to know when that photo was taken and if possible would you post it? I thought I had found photos of both 233 and 234 from different sources. In both cases they were in B'n'T livery (which all the other C received after being re-engined with GM engines) and numbered 233 and 234 without the prefix (post 1972). However in both cases these still had their Maybach engines as they did not receive their GM engines until much later than other C's (1980 and 1979 respectively)

Surprising that OOworks haven't yet acted on these threads to rebalance their 'U' for better running. Might get a Stay alive chip whenever I get mine, not a squeak yet. I might shot an email to Rod & Rebekah

Irishrailwayman did a quick tutorial on the the basic method about 4 days ago plus you can use the polystyrene cutters on the thread today if you go that route;)

THat's exactly what I mean. Thanks, Leslie

Are these collections digitized and accessible?

Where did you get Windows 10, Noel? It has become progressively harder to find a full standalone copy of a Windows OS, not just the 'Upgrade" This has been a stumbling block for me, the lack of a track planner for Mac OS. I have a new iMac so I probably need to invest in a Fusion or parallels also.

A few photos would be nice if anyone has some

Not sure how quickly that battery will discharge but a rechargeable would work, I guess, if it dies pretty quickly. Pretty neat!

Oh, understood. Someone I was under the impression there was something else other than what was on the front of the power car. Doh! I presume the gangways just abutted each other when the cars were linked? I'm not sure what prevented these being used with other gangways (sorry I know little of the different gangways that were used)

Which livery? Original IE, Full face IE, Enterprise original , E revised, IC Green etc

I'm sure that's why. People were finally able to complete existing rakes. A re-run of the orange roofs EGV would probably sell out again, not to mention we never saw more than a few individual numbers in the coaches themselves. I could do with a few more to be honest

Was there a physical connection between the power cars to enable MU e.g thru the unpowered coaches. They were usually separated within the formation from each other, no different from a PP service though, I guess. If any one has a photo of these continental gangways I would be interested to see how they appear

Thanks, Kieran. Might get a copy

Kieran, does it mainly cover the NIR or the rest of the island also?

Hi Kieran, Although you would know vastly more about the NIR system than I would, the following information may be useful. The 900 which had a cab at one end of the vehicle only, has run in formation with the 700s which were cabbed at both ends of the vehicle. BUT supplied 900s to the GNRB in '57/58 to "be run in formations of up to 8 cars in conjunction with the 700s". UTA crested ex-GNR 6car formation Derry-Belfast 1958 had 2x900s at the ends with two unpowered cars and 2x700s, (Irish Railways in Color, A second Glance, Tom Ferris p88) CIE BUT Green c904n Macmine Jx, 1962 with ex-GNR coach, B'n'T coach and ?4w TPO van p26 same ref. EDIT: Enterprise often consisted of only a 4 car set on weekdays in winter 133(900)-562-583-121(700),GVS 1968, Norman Johnston's Parting Shot p67 Also 128-594/594-131/134, another 3 car set ? (maybe Belfast-Derry route), p68 123-591/592-121 class also seen alongside, p69 Also 133-572--584, GVS, (1968) p72 I am not sure if these rakes particularly the last are complete or just what was recorded in the shot Portadown June 1968, 2.30pm GVS-Dublin Enterprise 133-562-552-556-123-125-584-12x?, probably the traditional full set for summer runnning, p81 I have the impression that Class 70 took over about =69, then the Hunslet PPs K

The only thing I could see was a steamer shunting a vintage green ex-MGWR 6w postal van at Sligo in 1956, followed by a luggage van in silver . I'll have 'A Second Glance' tomorrow and look for it

Very nice! Really shows the models well.