DiveController

Well, officially it's the 17th over here, so I just wanted to wish everyone on the site a Happy St Patrick's Day. The site has been a great source of interest and enjoyment for me over the last couple of years and it seems as good a time as any to thank all of you for your contributions, and to the several friends who stay in touch despite the distance. It'll be work as usual today but maybe a couple of green beers tonight. Kindest regards to all, Kevin

A very novel approach to the brake plough van. Fantastic thread, Richie. Really enjoyed that little historical trip:-bd Am I detecting a little bit of an architectural fetish with the permanent way?

I think Eoin has it….. X-Wrenn hehe;)

What's fast track?

Usually a limited run of three or four at the most..

Yup. For sure!

Saw that. It's a toss up but I think that Eoin might just have the edge;)

Many thanks, Noel!

Thanks for that, UP. Do you know roughly when that would have been? Obviously the TPO had to be through-piped also. Seems an odd arrangement, TPO and liner. That would make sense and I presume the sign was added to the side of the van at that time? Why would a brake have been required at all on an empty stock transfer? Was it capable/required to provide light/heat to the stock once at Inchicore?

I presume the second sheet is now 'standard issue', certainly looks better to my eye and reduced redness far better. Prior to re-scaling and colour adjustment, others would have seen the original sheet of transfers used, hence the comments above. It just makes sense to me to give them a new code and update one's website. 2 cents...

The reference number on the sheets seems to be the same which may have caused confusion? The 'Red Hand' colour seems lighter despite the scaling as it's a single shot and the backgrounds are similar

What does Air/Vacuum Transfer mean on the TLA? Equipped to run with vacuum and airbraked stock?

Been watching this. Definitely starting to take shape now:cheers:

Does anyone know anything about when this traffic stopped? It seems that UTA was operating some freight at least these after 1965 if they were rebuilt for Courtaulds in '65/'67?

No, you should stop now if you're seeing double. Anyway, he's some sort of activist for the elderly, so you should be all right!

The eyes must be getting auld too,

That's certainly possible especially as Airfixfan seems to think some were rebuilt in 1967 and might not have been in traffic when Pender's book went to press. Were Courtauld's wagon private owner wagons as I thought that the UTA ceased all or most freight in 1965? Seems like the wagons did not last that much longer and were gone by the "late 60s", unusual that they'd have been rebuilt as late as 1967. Couldn't find much on the web regarding Courtaulds itself ......

Well, someone thought it was worth that money to them, it sold!

After all that, I was going through some wagons I had picked up at various points and came across a Provincial Wagons 4 Plank Open (uncut) Courtaulds Wagon that I'd purchased without fully understanding it origin! Anyone know how to get rid of this inverted attachment, once uploaded, I can't seem to detach it from the post (something obviously occurred from being in proximity to jb's photos:D)

Thanks, I had noted that series of wagons had steel floors, over 500 of them, but didn't realize that they were subsequently converted to double beets. I had previously assumed that the height of the 11817-14672 series of Bulleid corrugated opens had been doubled but these were on a 10' wheelbase and had a capacity of 12 tons. Now that I delve through 3rd edition of locomotives and rolling stock of IR & NIR by a certain author, I see that 166 of them were converted in 1985 to the 28501-28665 series of double beets on the 12' 25436- flat chassis, two bodies from the 11817- series wagons with a capacity of 19 tons. I presume the additional length in the body would have allowed additional length to brace the double height body appropriately. Mayner's flats look fantastic but came out just before I came back in to modeling so they didn't make it onto my radar. I'm not sure they're available anymore

The bodies were placed on 22'9" flats?

I thought as much:facepalm: They got rid of the bogie beet wagons also? Weren't they brand new? They must have had another purpose, surely?

Thanks for that. Hmmm….. wasn't aware of this. Found their website but it seemed to be predominantly UK

Sorry for the cryptic question, David. I just didn't know why three of them were completely out of sequence

Isn't beet coming back next year, or did I get that wrong. Or are there no factories, wagons or baby beets left?