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I saw a picture somewhere - I think it was Des Coakham's carriage book - of a clerestory restaurant car between 2 railcars. It looked a little... unusual. Alan

A deck that close to the line is usually called a platform.

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Two platforms were usual, but Clara is a good exception. Tullamore also had only one platform until it became part of the main Galway line, when the 2nd platform was added. Until then, it had a substantial goods yard opposite the platform. Generally, if it's a passing point on a passenger line in CIE / IE days, it needs 2 platforms. A terminus only needs 1. Ballinasloe is a good example of an ex-Midland station still with a passing loop. Millstreet is a modern single platform station from the GSWR. It used to have a 2nd platform up the middle, but this has been removed and the track realigned. Banteer and Rathmore still have both platforms and a passing loop. On the DSER, 2 platforms were the norm at passing points. Rathdrum was unusual in being signalled for trains to use the right hand loop. The left hand loop in the down direction led onto a falling gradient, whereas the right had a level headshunt, so there was less risk of a runaway. The norm for the GNR was 2 platforms, again with exceptions. Your station looks like a former junction, with a bay behind the platform, now lifted. If so, the majority of the points would have been at the branch end, so the signal box should go there. Other general rules for signal boxes is to locate them beside any level crossing, to operate and supervise it, and generally they go at the end of the platform. DSER boxes were generally accessed off the footbridge. Nice looking station. Don't forget to repaint the woodwork. Under CIE, doors and woodwork were grey with occasional bits of black or white. From about 1985-6 a deep green was used, at least for mainline stations, and there was a deep blue too at some point. I have a photo of Malahide in dark and light blue - it looks awful. I've lost track of what colour they are now - mostly galvanised where I am. Regarding platform length, the down platform in Malahide was about 6 carriage lengths, while the up platform could handle a 9 coach train. They were rebuilt for the DART so now the signal box is mid-platform, but it used to be at the end. Platforms on the Mayo branch were only about 3 coaches long in the 80s - I once got off at Castlebar airfield rather than in the station. Alan

Very interesting, and interesting information about the resin too. I had always thought that resin and styrene were less hazardous than white metal, which I'm trying to avoid using. Is there a working temperature range for the rubber mould? Prince August do a lead-free casting alloy and, if it could be used along with a non-hazardous mould, it might provide a route to non-hazardous casting. Nice result on the wagon casting. Alan Edit: Also meant to say that's a great explanation, and makes the whole thing clearer than other explanations I've seen in MRJ. Thanks.

Stunning work. Alan

Sorry I'm slow getting back on this. Drawings show 4mm iron solebars on Midland wagons from the late 1890s. GSWR ones seem the same. If you want to measure one, the wagon under the crane at Mallow is a standard GSWR underframe on 3'6" wheels. For CIE 4 wheelers, the older ones seem to have narrower frames. Alan

There's a drawing in Ernie Shepherd's book on the Midland that shows them at (I think) 4mm. I'll check up when I get home and see if I can find anything else. I'd imagine John could help you in relation to more recent stock, given his 20ft container flat kit, but they look similar to me. Alan

I was measuring it on Google Earth a while back, and reckoned 6m x 2.5 would take you from the tunnel mouth to half way through the shed, so you should be able to do it without too much compression. Would love to see the track plan when you finalise it. If you used the Cobh platforms to represent the other end of the line (can't remember where it goes to at the moment), you could send trains to yourself. Alan

Not even a bit. Very realistic. Maith thú. Alan

Lovely looking cement wagons.

The 001 and the shed roof are magnificent. This is going to be one hell of a layout. Any chance of a pic of your roof press tool? There've been a few accounts of using foil for corrugated roofs on here, and I'm hoping to use the technique on my GSWR convertibles. Would I be able to curve it to shape after laminating and pressing the corrugations in? Or would I be able to corrugate it after curving it? Alan

Lovely video there, and thanks for the link. Very interesting about the brake van liveries. As for the railcar numbers, I hope I didn't sound critical above - I've a terrible tendency to make suggestions. I'm sure I'm going to end up as one of those cranks who says, 'you've missed out a rivet on the tender there: there should be 13 and you've only got 12." I really admire the way you're focusing on getting the overall picture right, and getting the trains up and running. Alan

Well, I'm cock-a-whoop this morning because last night I completed my crossover and it works! I'm attaching, hopefully, a short video of me pushing three wagons over and back. The idea was to whizz them as fast as possible and see if they fell off. They didn't. Next up, wire it up and supply power and changeover switches for the frogs. Then convert one of Mr Murphy's nice 141 class to 21mm gauge and see if it can manage the crossing. Then try to figure out how to make the Alex Jackson coupling. Then see if my 141 can shunt a wagon or two across. Alan

Nice work with the scratchbuild. Looking forward to seeing her finished and painted. Alan

I love the long sweeping curves and uncrowded station layouts, and the scenic work is first class. A couple of points to note. You might want to renumber that railcar: they were renumbered into 6101 series when the engines were taken out and after that they worked push pull with B201 class between Bray and Dundalk. You might want to check whether the white band on A58R should be a bit thinner and more rounded - it looks a bit too triangular, but I could be wrong. Finally, did you repaint your bauxte brake van grey? I thought they were always in bauxite myself, but others on here would know better than I do. Cracking layout. Looking forward to seeing more of it. Alan

Is that part of the District Line?

Thanks John, Bosko and Rich. John, I haven't forgotten that 24mm would be too tight for a curve, but this section is purely straight, and I can ease things out on curves. I hope that will do. I'm itching to get back and do a bit more, but had to work late this evening, so it'll be the weekend at least before I can get more track down. Here's a few pics that failed to upload at the end of my posting session last night. (Incidentally, does anyone know why the site has turned them on their side: they display right way up on my computer.) 1st, one running line complete. 2nd, gouging a hole under the sleeper that will move the turnout. 3rd, fettling the joint between the stock rail of one turnout and the point rail of the other, because I hadn't soldered them in line. 4th, making more holes in the cork underlay. Alan

Next up is the other closure rail. Not so successful here. This one will need to be adjusted as the alignment is wrong and the clearance is too loose. I'm having trouble getting it off though. (I think I may need to rephrase that: the rail is reluctant to allow itself be unsoldered.) Anyone for the last few choc ices there?

Hmmm, very poor depth of field in that last one. Moving on again, I next tried fitting the closure rails. Gauges in use to maintain clearance, and trying to get a good alignment. One worked. I'll have to go back and sort out the other.

After that, it's time to lay the straight. I used a ruler to get it straight. It seems to have worked. I've a bit of a horror of the wiggly look you sometimes get when the rail is poorly laid. I keep expecting to look at it and go, "oh boll*cks."

Moving on, the next lot show progress out from the crossing vees. 3 gauges in use: make sure of one end, make sure of the other end, then make sure it's alright in the middle, even though you know it's straight.

Thanks guys. You know, it just occurred to me that pushing a wagon through a set of points by hand is exactly what I used to do when I was 2. No change there then. A bit tired to take down the tools and do more tonight, so here's a few photos of how I built the track. Pretty much the same as before, but my soldering technique is improving thanks to the tips everyone gave. Exactoscale have moved in with C&L and now neither type of track is available, so it's probably as well I'm working on ply and rivet constructions. First step was to try to locate the 2 vees at 21mm from one another. Sleepers and ballasting were done on the cork before I had a board to lay the track on. Through sleepering puzzled me. With 00, you don't need it because the track separation is so great that you can use 2 full crossings, but with only 24mm between tracks, you have to lay a set of sleeper timbers spanning both sides of the crossing. I couldn't find a picture, because the track usually hides it unless the photo is taken from directly above. I eventually managed to take a look at the crossover at the north end of Grand Canal Dock. (I think I may have covered this before.) Enough waffle, here's the pics:

Thanks jhb. I'm afraid I lost track of this thread for a while, or I'd have said that sooner. I'm hoping to do something set about 1900 to 1910, maybe with GSWR in green and black liveries, ex-WLWR in maroon and who knows, perhaps the MGWR in green and prussian blue. (Claremorris, Collooney, Athenry perhaps - thoughts keep moving around - maybe a single transferrable station.) But that's just getting carried away. For a start, I'll probably just try to stock it with diesel transition vehicles, because there are kits available and the painting and lining should be easier. Please keep the information coming. It's utterly priceless. Up to now, all I've been able to get is snippets in different books. Thanks for the sticky, Garfield. Alan