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Can now confirm 7107 was converted to 64 seats in early 1986 with 7110 later in the year, though not all seats lined-up with the windows. Some airline seating remained at one end of the vehicle, but with more generous legroom than usual.
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Managed to obtain a copy of April 2nd 1973 until further notice. Thanks for the comments again guys
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Thanks for the details, presumably with a requirement for eight sets with four Standards each, that explains the conversion of 5 composites to Standards? As with only 36 built, you'd have no spares. Though that would also leave no spare Composites with a requirement for 4. I've seen a reference to pairs of 121s working some services in this period, but photos from pre-071 days seem to show A Class or Double Baby GMs from the mid-1970s or A Class or Single Baby GMs in the earlier years.
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Thanks jhb, I knew it must be about then, but the trouble is too often timetables appear to be published with "until further notice", so it's not easy to tell if there is an interim timetable between different issues sometimes. Thanks for your comment, I think that's the one then. Regards, Ben That reminds me of Virgin Train's infamous Operation Princess...
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I know the Mk2d appeared from December 1972 onwards, but could someone confirm when the new timetable was launched? The one with more services than before and a pattern of a pair of trains from Dublin to provincial towns in the evening and up in the morning. Was it April 1973? Thanks, Ben.
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I was thinking how best to go about this, posting-up the information I've found on the Mk IIIs. Seeing as one of the original things which prompted that search was the opening question in this thread it seems appropriate to answer that. So I can now confirm that 7140 entered service as a "First" while internally being no different to a standard. Indeed, all First Class in Mk III sets consisted of a standard marshalled between Generator Van and diner until the first Mk III Super Standards were converted in 1986. 7120 and 7140 were both seemingly branded externally as "INTER CITY 1st", while internally having the same 72-seat arrangement as the Standards, for the launch of Mk III services from the 2nd July 1984, the first two rakes in service comprising: 7601, 7140 (First), 7402, 7126, 7125, 7128, 7129 & 7141 7602, 7120 (First), 7401, 7127, 7121, 7124 & 7123. I can also confirm that 7107 and 7110 did not enter service as Super Standards but were both later converted. 7107 entered service as a Conference coach and 7110 as a Standard.
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Thanks @enniscorthyman, but I've got that issue (indeed I now have 1984-2003 inclusive). Appreciate the heads-up though. It was interesting to see proper plans of the internal layouts of the push-pull Mk IIIs as well as why there were only 19 intermediates rather than 25 which I'd wondered about. Enough for three 6-car and two 3-car sets as opposed to five 6-cars.
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I take it you mean the 37 into a Baby Deltic conversion? I suppose nothing really - it's far, far better than the loco being scrapped, it's just this niggling feeling I have somehow.
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While I'm happy to see new builds that are of designs no longer with us, I'm not so sure of conversions of existing locomotives to make into other classes. I do consider the TWO different P2 projects worthwhile as I understand one will be streamlined, the other not and they will use different valve gear. Perhaps one day someone will do a new build 800? Then they can give 081 a run for its money at the 'ton' and more!
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The article also explains why I've seen a few references to 071s not being able to attain 90mph, the nominal maximum being 89mph from the gearing which would mean on worn wheels you'd never quite make 90 on the level, but on new wheels you'd go quite a bit over.
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Well these arrived today, less than 24 hours after posting: Couldn't be more pleased, not only do the earlier ones answer all my remaining Mk III questions, but otherwise solves the 'riddle' of 7140 among other things. The 100mph test run article is also fascinating to some like myself, what would people pay to be on a 100mph+ tour with a 071 I wonder! So thanks, to the person who suggested no. 200 for that article. I plan to summarise my findings in one of my previous threads in due courese for those who are interested and as a thank you for all your help, as it seems the least I can do. Mysteries solved, Mk III quest over.
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Effectively yeah. Though I'm not sure you'd notice, particularly scaled down for a model!
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I don't know for these vehicles in particular, and in general the range varies rail vehicle to rail vehicle, but as an example a LUAS tram's tyres are 660mm when new down to a minimum allowed 580mm when worn.
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Thanks for the offer, but I managed to get in touch with the IRRS to obtain the 5 journals I wanted. Typically, after I obtained the selection of Feb 1985-Oct 2003; a full collection of 1970-1990 appeared for sale! Though rather dearer. Thankfully after these 5, that should be it really, the only other ones I'd ever likely want are those from 1972-73 detailing the Mk2d introduction to service, but I think I'll concentrate on the Mk3s for the time being still! The wealth of information I've read so far, and much not pertaining to Mk3s at all, has been interesting, illuminating and has answered many questions, the remainder should be answered when I obtain the other journals.
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Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive
hexagon789 replied to Glenderg's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
Sincerely hope it doesn't, many great selections of photos were lost to Fotopic never to be seen again. Flickr has so many excellent albums and collections of photographs which are priceless historically let alone photographically that it would be a tragic loss. Particularly of many people, understandably, are put off from starting again from scratch. -
Like the shed, very nice! Looks excellent lit-up like that. The atmospheric backscene looks a treat too.
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Been on at least twice last year, but still an interesting watch. The same channel has had many other BTF short films on such as Terminus, Elizabethan Express, Blue Pullman and Snowdrift at Blea Moor.
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Thanks everyone again for your help, my first tranche of journals arrived so it's just left to see about the other ones from the IRRS and then, hopefully (!), my researches will be complete!
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That's alright, don't worry about it! I appreciate the help everyone has given. I've sent an e-mail to the address above and hopefully I'll be able to obtain the 3 issues I'm looking for. If nothing else I know precisely which issues I want now which is a big help in itself
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Thanks anyway, there's something for the June 2024 issue! It's a bit far, though I've been saying for years I must visit Dublin, my great-grandfather came from the city. Cheers. Brilliant! That's exactly the info I wanted. I have October 1985 in the job lot I purchased, sadly not June 1984. As an aside, I know the IRRS website states one can obtain back issues for reasonable cost, but does anyone know how you actually go about doing that on their website or am I missing something?
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Appreciate the kind offer jhb, but you needn't go to any trouble. I took the plunge and decided to get them anyway, there's bound to be other interesting snippets anyway even if there isn't precisely the content I'm looking for ;)
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Thank you for your help, much appreciated. If there was something in No. 104 October 1987, that would be ideal as that is also obtainable.
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Hi DiveController, which issue (month/year) does Vol. 16 pp. 360-364 correspond to? Thanks
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Thank you for confirming, I'd be very grateful if you had a look thanks.