jhb171achill Posted May 21 Posted May 21 55 minutes ago, GSR 800 said: Maedbh makes a spirited departure with the Day Mail Latest addition to the train, one of the two IFM bogie TPOs Really wonderful models from Tommy, very impressed! OUTSTANDING work!!!! On 1/12/2025 at 7:18 AM, David Holman said: A fine ensemble. There is something rather nice about a mixed take of vehicles and certainly more interesting than a fixed unit railcard set... Light years more interesting. On 13/12/2025 at 11:09 PM, GSR 800 said: Some more work done today. The clerestory and the Bredin Mk2 got some lining, decals and detail picked out. Once again picking out the windows in silver on the Bredin Mk2 was a tedious process! And with that they now join the train! Longterm I'd like to change the roof vents on the Bredin mk2 to something smaller, the dapol ones are enormously overscale. This WHOLE LOT is truly inspirational! 1
GSR 800 Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 6 hours ago, jhb171achill said: OUTSTANDING work!!!! All I did this time was buy them and advise all to be silver! Great work from Tommy, quick postage too! 6 hours ago, jhb171achill said: Light years more interesting. This WHOLE LOT is truly inspirational! Funnily enough, while I agree, I'm also interested in what CIE had in mind with the American streamliner inspiration. What they got was about the furthest thing from the 20th century Limited or the Hiawatha! 2
Mayner Posted May 22 Posted May 22 4 hours ago, GSR 800 said: Funnily enough, while I agree, I'm also interested in what CIE had in mind with the American streamliner inspiration. What they got was about the furthest thing from the 20th century Limited or the Hiawatha! Stainless steel stock sometimes tends to look quite battered and rough in close-up Stock from NZR presitigious Silver Star express stored in Thames after 24 of the coaches were re-gauged and converted for use on the Eastern & Orient Express between Singapore, Malasia & Thailand https://nzrailphotos.co.nz/photos/silver-star?page=1#lg=119&slide=2167 I suspect Irelands climate with its high humidity and rainfall & the use of unpainted aluminium had a lot to do with the poor weathering/severly tarnished state at CIEs 'silver locos and stock. NZR Silver Sar often appeared to be hauled by heavily weathered GM or GE locos which did not help the image. 1
skinner75 Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Mayner said: Stainless steel stock sometimes tends to look quite battered and rough in close-up Stock from NZR presitigious Silver Star express stored in Thames after 24 of the coaches were re-gauged and converted for use on the Eastern & Orient Express between Singapore, Malasia & Thailand https://nzrailphotos.co.nz/photos/silver-star?page=1#lg=119&slide=2167 I suspect Irelands climate with its high humidity and rainfall & the use of unpainted aluminium had a lot to do with the poor weathering/severly tarnished state at CIEs 'silver locos and stock. NZR Silver Sar often appeared to be hauled by heavily weathered GM or GE locos which did not help the image. Stored in the Thames more like!
Metrovik Posted June 1 Posted June 1 Just had a look through this thread. You've made rolling stock I can only dream to have! Very well done! 1
Horsetan Posted June 1 Posted June 1 On 21/5/2026 at 10:03 PM, GSR 800 said: Latest addition to the train, one of the two IFM bogie TPOs Really wonderful models from Tommy, very impressed! Incidentally, were the TPO Commonwealth bogies originally 8ft or 8ft 6in wheelbase? 1
Mol_PMB Posted June 2 Posted June 2 (edited) 7 hours ago, Horsetan said: Incidentally, were the TPO Commonwealth bogies originally 8ft or 8ft 6in wheelbase? 8ft As far as I’m aware it was only the coaches built at Inchicore in the early 1960s that received the 8’6” commonwealth bogies from new. Edited June 2 by Mol_PMB Last 2 words 1
Horsetan Posted June 2 Posted June 2 1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said: 8ft... In that case we're going to have to cut and shut the BR bogies supplied...
Mol_PMB Posted June 2 Posted June 2 5 minutes ago, Horsetan said: In that case we're going to have to cut and shut the BR bogies supplied... Or keep leaning on IRM to make spares available from the Park Royals. There are more differences than just the wheelbase.
Horsetan Posted June 2 Posted June 2 24 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: Or keep leaning on IRM to make spares available from the Park Royals. There are more differences than just the wheelbase. Yes, I seem to recall the suspension arrangement was slightly different....
Mol_PMB Posted June 2 Posted June 2 (edited) 3 hours ago, Horsetan said: Yes, I seem to recall the suspension arrangement was slightly different.... A couple of photos from Ernie, I could find better ones given time. 8' type (most common in Ireland) had an equalising beam prominent on the outside of the bogie, so the vertical damper is also more obvious: 8'6" type has the equalising beam tucked inside the bogie frame, and vertical damper tucked in a bit: The BR type is slightly different again (image from John Turner on Flickr) both in suspension (prominent external swing links) and headstock shape: Modifying one type to the other will be a challenge. I'd say either leave them alone, or replace entirely. That's why it would be very helpful if IRM would provide the 8' type as a spare part. A couple more useful links to IRRS photos of bogies. A nice clear closeup of the 8' type: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53508990164 And a couple of views of the rare Irish 8'6" type: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/53505734292 https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishrailwayarchive/54251290771 Edited June 2 by Mol_PMB added 3 photo links 1 1
Horsetan Posted June 2 Posted June 2 20 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: .... it would be very helpful if IRM would provide the 8' type as a spare part. We can but hope.
leslie10646 Posted June 2 Posted June 2 On 30/11/2025 at 10:06 PM, GSR 800 said: "...And we've a tender full of round coal the like of I havent seen in ages and the train isnt too heavy.." "...Peter curls up on his box and has a sleep and for once I can fire in real comfort. She's burning next to nothing, the injectors are good, it's on the old tender with the flat tank so you throw down instead of lifting, the night is fine - in fact it's the sort of thing that never happens these days." Excerpt from the IRRS Journal no.203, Clements on the Midland. I'll just mention that that article wasn't even the tip of the iceberg - I have hundreds of pages of Bob's travels to ponder in my dotage. I was going to write something, but the other gent beat me to it. Great models @GSR 800. 2
GSR 800 Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 (edited) Got around to the Buffet car at last. Decided to try out the green roof, lined the windows (what a pain in the arse). Gave it a good dose of weathering too. I think the roofs would rapidly acquire a layer of filth. I quite like the green roof, the single colour gives it a very modern "mk2" like appearance to my eye. Ill need to do roof detail, buffers and interior now. Next up was the brake coach. Been delaying this for ages but finally made a start tonight, formed the tumblehome in the ag spec jig and said far thee well to the repaint which has served well for many years. She'll serve many more in her new skin. Disassembly Knives out Reskinned (on one side anyway!) Edited June 13 by GSR 800 9
Mol_PMB Posted Thursday at 15:13 Posted Thursday at 15:13 Nice - I like the green roof. I'll be doing that on a Park Royal soon. Sorry I missed your post while I was away.
GSR 800 Posted Thursday at 16:26 Author Posted Thursday at 16:26 1 hour ago, Mol_PMB said: Nice - I like the green roof. I'll be doing that on a Park Royal soon. Sorry I missed your post while I was away. Mol, was looking at this video. At the end there's footage from Glasnevin Junction. Great set of shots, finishes with Maedbh hauling the Up Enterprise. But specific to the Buffet, shows an AEC set with what looks like a black roof, dark green, single waist band. So I've changed mine to look like that! Will post a pic later. Video is timestamped
Mol_PMB Posted Thursday at 16:37 Posted Thursday at 16:37 7 minutes ago, GSR 800 said: Mol, was looking at this video. At the end there's footage from Glasnevin Junction. Great set of shots, finishes with Maedbh hauling the Up Enterprise. But specific to the Buffet, shows an AEC set with what looks like a black roof, dark green, single waist band. So I've changed mine to look like that! Will post a pic later. Video is timestamped Very nice! I must spend some more time with that video... My understanding is that the railcars were originally delivered in dark green with waist line, and that the first 3 buffet cars and some of the open seconds had the same livery. In the mid-50s the coaches did not have snails - only the railcars. Later buffets and open seconds were in a lighter experimental shade, before standardising on brilliant green. Roof colour of these is uncertain. However, they quickly became dirty. 2
GSR 800 Posted Thursday at 17:36 Author Posted Thursday at 17:36 58 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: Very nice! I must spend some more time with that video... My understanding is that the railcars were originally delivered in dark green with waist line, and that the first 3 buffet cars and some of the open seconds had the same livery. In the mid-50s the coaches did not have snails - only the railcars. Later buffets and open seconds were in a lighter experimental shade, before standardising on brilliant green. Roof colour of these is uncertain. However, they quickly became dirty. Buffet in her current form. 3
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