Hawthorn Posted September 26, 2025 Posted September 26, 2025 (edited) Hi First, let me introduce myself to this forum. I am from England but I have recently developed an interest in Irish railways having visited the west of Ireland on holiday. I mainly model European N gauge, but I also OO gauge including purchasing the excellent, if delicate, Accurascale models. My main interest is building and converting rolling stock. I decided that modelling Irish HO using EM gauge track would be an interesting challenge, allowing accurate scale 5'3" gauge. The well known Lima and Rivarossi HO (or near HO) items provide a good basis for this, so not everything would need to be built from scratch. I am also developing a micro layout so they will have something to run on. This will be a terminus where the scenic break is at the main line end of the station, with a station roof hiding part of the fiddle yard. This means that I will not need full length rakes, allowing me to run main line services such as a Mk2 Supertrain with just two coaches. With careful design, I think this deception will work okay. I do not (and probably will never have) room to create an EM gauge continuous run layout due to the shallow curves that such a layout would need. I have a number of other modelling interests, so progress has been a bit sporadic. I expect to post further updates in due course. To start with, this is progress on my 141 class. The first photo shows the transparent cast cabs, both painted and unpainted. The master was made from plasticard with the aid of my Silhouette cutter. The lower fairings and cabside windows are in plasticard and microstrip. The second photo shows the parts laid out. The bogie sideframes are made using my cutter and slide on to the Tenshodo bogie sideframe holders. The bogies are wired together. The slow running is good, but should be better once some weight is added. This was not the cheapest motorising option, but I knew it would work and be compatible with the solid cab castings so there was a low risk of me wasting my money! I plan to create a "float" of bogies to service this and any future 141/181/121 models in case of failure. The third picture shows the current progress. It is nearly finished, but there are still details like the fuel tanks and tablet catchers etc to add on. It will be in 1970s/early 1980s condition. The decals are nearly ready for printing on my inkjet printer. Next up are the two coaches. The Mk2 coach has new sides cut on my Silhouette cutter. The Lima sides were cut vertically along the inner side of the doors. The sides between the doors were then remounted slightly inside and the window areas cut out. The sides were then glued on to be flush with the doors. Apart from the glazing on the doors and decals and the odd minor detail, it is complete. The Mk1 gen car is almost complete. The main thing left to do is the exhaust on the roof. Next to it is a replacement bogie. The frames were cut on the Silhouette and the detail added from chopped up bits of the original bogie and some U channel microstrip. The bogies in real life are wider than the British Rail versions, so the longer EM gauge axles are no problem. The damper in the middle is a bit too short but I can live with that. The H van is scratchbuilt using Silhouette-cut parts. The rivets are also created by the cut scoring small circles, which works for the small rivets found on these vans. The underframe is from a Ratio Iron Mink with heavily altered brake gear. A Lima wagon chassis would not have been suitable as the brake lever is completely different. The container was converted with a conventional non-computer assisted method in plasticard and microstrip. The CIE tan is the classic Tamiya orange with a dash of brown mix which I discovered when lurking on this forum. Thanks! Edited September 26, 2025 by Hawthorn 12 6
Galteemore Posted September 26, 2025 Posted September 26, 2025 (edited) How exciting and interesting! Welcome aboard. Some really good work there. Would love to get my head around Silhouette cutting. Edited September 26, 2025 by Galteemore 1 2
Flying Snail Posted September 26, 2025 Posted September 26, 2025 Very interesting indeed! Really impressive modelling skills .... and we don't see much Irish HO, so very unique! Welcome, and looking forward to seeing more of this project! 1 1
Horsetan Posted September 26, 2025 Posted September 26, 2025 1 hour ago, Flying Snail said: Very interesting indeed! Really impressive modelling skills .... and we don't see much Irish HO, so very unique! Welcome, and looking forward to seeing more of this project! The side benefit of 5'3" in HO/18.25 (strictly speaking 18.37) is that you can run Australian stock as well....
Hawthorn Posted September 26, 2025 Author Posted September 26, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Horsetan said: The side benefit of 5'3" in HO/18.25 (strictly speaking 18.37) is that you can run Australian stock as well.... It was seeing the Australian outline HO scale Broadford layout with EM track that gave me the idea. There is a Brazilian HO layout in the current Continental Modeller that does the same. Edited September 26, 2025 by Hawthorn 2
Horsetan Posted September 26, 2025 Posted September 26, 2025 2 hours ago, Hawthorn said: It was seeing the Australian outline HO scale Broadford layout with EM track that gave me the idea.... There's a small number of Australian modellers who gone a bit further with 1:87, and they work in 18.37mm gauge to P87 standards. 1
David Holman Posted September 27, 2025 Posted September 27, 2025 Excellent! Nice to see a mix of modern and traditional techniques as well. Would also like to know more about Silhouette cutting. 1
DJ Dangerous Posted September 28, 2025 Posted September 28, 2025 Lovely to see something less common like this, and welcome to the forum! 1 2
Hawthorn Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 Hi everyone I have not posted for a while. I have been focusing on my N gauge modelling for the last few months but the Irish modelling will resume in due course. I have had quite a bit of success in finding source models for both British and Irish HO models, not least finding a haul of three BR brakes vans and a Toad at a show last autumn. So I have not disappeared! Happy New Year everyone. 4
Hawthorn Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 Hi. During a quiet Sunday at home, I have done more work to the class 141. I have added buffers, couplings, the fuel tanks and footsteps. The assembly is complete. I just need to add a few details, such as the roof grill and horns and finish the painting and add decals. 6 1
Flying Snail Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 26/9/2025 at 11:18 AM, Hawthorn said: To start with, this is progress on my 141 class. The first photo shows the transparent cast cabs, both painted and unpainted. The master was made from plasticard with the aid of my Silhouette cutter. The lower fairings and cabside windows are in plasticard and microstrip. I've very interested in how you're producing your plasticard masters - how do you handle the compound curves at the cab corners?
Hawthorn Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 (edited) On 9/2/2026 at 11:04 AM, Flying Snail said: I've very interested in how you're producing your plasticard masters - how do you handle the compound curves at the cab corners? The master was built up with layers of plasticard built on a basic box. There were overlays cut on my Silhouette computer cutter to deal with cab windows etc. The curves were created by eye using flat needle files, plastic filler and fine wet and dry. In other words, sculpting with some trial and error until it looked right. Edited February 10 by Hawthorn 5
Hawthorn Posted February 15 Author Posted February 15 Good evening I have spent a rainy Sunday carrying on with the class 141. It is almost complete, with only the front cab numbers to add, which will be followed by some matt varnish spray. The decals are home made. The exhaust grill is a simple photo print which I will replace if I think of a better way of doing it. It is in mid 1970s to early 1980s condition with tablet catchers. 5 3
Colonel Posted February 16 Posted February 16 One the one hand, it is just a 141. Plenty of models about, but this one is special, being HO and hand crafted. Well done you. 1 3
Hawthorn Posted February 20 Author Posted February 20 Good evening. I am building a new item of stock, namely a Mk2 generator car. The method is a slightly refined version of the one I used for the FO. The main difference is keeping the body intact above the windows rather than removing it and replacing it with plasticard. This is better as it helps to keep the body in shape. The base model is a Lima FK. 4
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