Mike 84C Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Just a couple of things I have been doing during lock down. My god the camera is cruel! I hesitated before posting! They both look better in the flesh! Honest! Can I blame the camera phone? 14 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Mike , They look brilliant and will ensure rtr models advertised shortly ! About an hour ago I added the etched frames to my MV / C class found in a box with a engine shed full of other part built resin, cast whitemetal offerings - I have 2 silver Fox A class and a white metal one. couple of Hunslet diesels - one now maroon. a resin 121 now in orange and a MIR 111 with broken handrails ... your efforts put mine to shame you have finished a two locos and the Sulzer B is coming on well- but looks like a lot of glazing to fit. Robert 1 Quote
Noel Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike 84C said: Just a couple of things I have been doing during lock down. My god the camera is cruel! I hesitated before posting! They both look better in the flesh! Honest! Can I blame the camera phone? They look very good. Great job. Enjoy. Ps what chassis did you use? 1 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Robert Shrives said: Mike , They look brilliant and will ensure rtr models advertised shortly ! About an hour ago I added the etched frames to my MV / C class found in a box with a engine shed full of other part built resin, cast whitemetal offerings - I have 2 silver Fox A class and a white metal one. couple of Hunslet diesels - one now maroon. a resin 121 now in orange and a MIR 111 with broken handrails ... your efforts put mine to shame you have finished a two locos and the Sulzer B is coming on well- but looks like a lot of glazing to fit. Robert Robert I have a couple of sets of MM Handrails, any use to you? Quote
Mike 84C Posted July 6, 2020 Author Posted July 6, 2020 Noel, the A & Sulzer are on Hornby Deltic chassis the C is on a Hornby Electro-Diesel cls 73 I believe. All bought on ebay and run well which is fortunate. All have the later enclosed motor, not the pancake one! Thanks for all the likes guys. Robert, I have started glazing, cutting up Ferro Roche boxes and filing to shape is a dull and boring job! So best man up and crack on. I did wonder if I have overdone the grime but I did use colour photos and filth does seem to be the order of the day in the Crossley era. 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Filth is VERY certainly the thing in the Crossley era - I often wondered if that's why many A and C classes ended up with only the white flash above front cab windows, and no side white band and no "tan" at all! Your weathering looks superb - just like the real thing. 1 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 If I may here are a pic or two of my efforts this week on the loco front. 8 Quote
David Holman Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 Nothing wrong with the camera, they look great. Must be fantastic in reality! 1 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Got a bit more excited with transfers yesterday .. The maroon what if MV became 110 as an overly easily mix of 101.. A quick mess with cabs off a duplicate 112 gave me 113 2 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 A maroon “C” class! Now that’s a very nice “Might-have-been”! 1 1 Quote
K801 Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 Love the C class, was the engine room windows plated over when NIR re powered it with a motor out of an MED dmu? lol 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted July 10, 2020 Posted July 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, K801 said: Love the C class, was the engine room windows plated over when NIR re powered it with a motor out of an MED dmu? lol It was actually clockwork motors and rubber bands that NIR put in them........... 1 1 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 A bit more done on the loco front with rubdown logos - but these have reacted to testors dull coat and Humbrol acrylic gloss - If anybody has any of the smaller 101 NIR logos tucked away and open to reasonable offers I would like to get a second set and the MIR red transfers. Flash on 111 makes it looks a bit garish but ok really . Behind ,as I guess are more across the land, 121 being finished as the rtr model makes final approach and behind 3 A class. 121 is an MIR resin and then two fox A and a white metal Q kits A class- this does need a big motor or a set of jacks as a depot queen. 8 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 Hunslet in maroon got glazing added - canopy glue and glaze . The blue hunslet needs a bit more thought as that has etched frames. 3 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 MV chassis pics Side view - noticed bogie frames not same height - will have to correct ! top down Hornby 25 weights, IIRC replica cab units 80 and 60 thou plasticard. vero board to link bogies - It would be possible to mess with black bettle and arrange use of a rtr PCB board to support lights etc. being a dino this might happen in the 22nd century ! Mk1 Bachmann coach with pickups and SF sideframes, coupler mount for Kaydee 5s- plan anyway. Black bettle as power base , Just see Eion`s cast weight. lovely job and adds weight low down. Finish off with matt black and a dust of frame muck. 6 Quote
Mike 84C Posted October 11, 2020 Author Posted October 11, 2020 Looks like a nice installation there Whizz, I filed the holes out in the bogie side frames. Not sure it was worth the effort when all is painted black and then weathered to 60's filth style. I must become competent at fitting decoders, maybe its my next lockdown challenge! But I have a man near me who is so good at it! Fitting Kaydee no5's on locos and rolling stock I find a bit of a problem 'cos the standard no5 mounting arm is not long enough to put the coupler head in line with the buffer faces. I have quite a few packs of std no5's. hey ho! 2 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mike 84C said: Looks like a nice installation there Whizz, I filed the holes out in the bogie side frames. Not sure it was worth the effort when all is painted black and then weathered to 60's filth style. I must become competent at fitting decoders, maybe its my next lockdown challenge! But I have a man near me who is so good at it! Fitting Kaydee no5's on locos and rolling stock I find a bit of a problem 'cos the standard no5 mounting arm is not long enough to put the coupler head in line with the buffer faces. I have quite a few packs of std no5's. hey ho! The 5 is a trail ok on coaches but having seen DCC have Symbola mounts Might try as they have less to interfere with bogie and offer a NEM mount so can experiment with 18 - 20 couplers. DCC seems a veritable minefield, the new 121 comes with a bespoke chip for sound etc yet yards of thread explaining issues and solutions quite enough to put me off. I have done the pop the lid and fit chips for others but left the fiddly bits to others, like you I have a man that does at work so if ever tempted (often) for sound fun I know where to go. It does seem that a chip needs fine tuning to user DCC control systems and plug and play may well be a bit of a yet to happen, the battles of MAC V soft or Beta V VHS still seem to play out in DCC model land. So good luck. Hope all well otherwise and apology for a major hyjack of the thread have your green boxes moved on ? Robert 1 1 Quote
Mike 84C Posted October 11, 2020 Author Posted October 11, 2020 Robert, you have about summed the DCC quagmire up, two wires plug and play . Hmm green boxes have moved on Sulzer needs a wash of 60's dare I say filth? and am waiting for some Shell BP transfers for a 11t Planet. ??? sounded it up for me, bit of a how much moment!!, but it is good when it changes gear up and down with a clunk! Mic 3 Quote
Noel Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Robert Shrives said: The 5 is a trail ok on coaches but having seen DCC have Symbola mounts Might try as they have less to interfere with bogie and offer a NEM mount so can experiment with 18 - 20 couplers. DCC seems a veritable minefield, the new 121 comes with a bespoke chip for sound etc yet yards of thread explaining issues and solutions quite enough to put me off. I have done the pop the lid and fit chips for others but left the fiddly bits to others, like you I have a man that does at work so if ever tempted (often) for sound fun I know where to go. It does seem that a chip needs fine tuning to user DCC control systems and plug and play may well be a bit of a yet to happen, the battles of MAC V soft or Beta V VHS still seem to play out in DCC model land. So good luck. Hope all well otherwise and apology for a major hyjack of the thread have your green boxes moved on ? Robert Just pop the cover off the 121 bonnet and plug in the 21pin LokSound decoder and off you go, no tuning or adjustments needed. Some folk may wish to adjust the overall volume but that's easily done by writing a value to CV63 on the test track. 1 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, Noel said: Just pop the cover off the 121 bonnet and plug in the 21pin LokSound decoder and off you go, no tuning or adjustments needed. Some folk may wish to adjust the overall volume but that's easily done by writing a value to CV63 on the test track. Noel . Indeed but the pages afterwards make it look so complex for some one who does not even have or want a mobile phone and for the last 50 years has had models with two wire dc. TBH I am sure the 121 is the pinnacle of DCC made easy given how easy to install but on here ( a bit) and on mainstream Rm Web a lot of column inches on chip angst of many other models and chip choice and operation , but guess it is horses for courses. happy modelling regardless as it is a great wide hobby! Robert 2 Quote
Noel Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Robert Shrives said: Noel . Indeed but the pages afterwards make it look so complex for some one who does not even have or want a mobile phone and for the last 50 years has had models with two wire dc. TBH I am sure the 121 is the pinnacle of DCC made easy given how easy to install but on here ( a bit) and on mainstream Rm Web a lot of column inches on chip angst of many other models and chip choice and operation , but guess it is horses for courses. happy modelling regardless as it is a great wide hobby! Robert Understand. Think of the loco as a VHS player, the chip is just whatever movie you want to play in it (ie choice of sound and driving characteristics). Personally I think current DCC is technically totally antiquated, there have been incremental improvements but is still not that much different from Hornby's Zero 1 in the late 1970s. DCC is 1970s electronics that has had all manner of clever gubbins taped onto it. But in this day and age things like the need for a programming track, loco addresses, CVs are a bit like asking a modern web developer to design a new web site for a business using assembly language. What I like about DCC is its just two wires to the entire layout, I don't believe in all these unnesseary and wasteful droppers, never used them, never had a problem, fish plates conduct the current reliably and have done for 25 years. I enjoy three main benefits of DCC: Only two wires to track (no block sections nor isolation sections, nor switches), prototypical driving (ie acceleration, braking and stopping), and sound. Edited October 11, 2020 by Noel 3 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Getting there - bogies and tank got black today just need to sort couplings, numbers and fixing body to the chassis and I might actually finish it. 8 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted December 16, 2020 Posted December 16, 2020 The MIR resin 121 got a bit of the black on - go round with a band and will use the IRM ends to fashion spray masks . The 104 got 4mm loco numbers but closer checking of pics show much smaller numbers used - the look coach sized numbers so I will scrape off first efforts, in back ground of 121 pic a case of two steps back, ho hum. 4 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted March 1, 2022 Posted March 1, 2022 Much later .. the 121 has gone UP "gray" as 134 and another 101 on the way. I have emailed Steve at Railtech to see if the eruo long number and RSPI crest possible in white. Chassis will be a motor bogie and coach bogie with 3D print sideframes in stock. Sorry a biz fuzzy but shows third 101 with black roof as 102 in faded blue. last pic a bit of camera shake but shows handrails added and sitting on new weathered chassis ex ebay for £60, but at least ride hights the same on all three. I glued a piece of PCB 5mm up from body edge to make a level foot for chassis to sit on andwith a little sanding of chassis so the resin tanks just rub on chassis fuel tanks the chassis is a friction fit - a spot of evostick later to avoid chassis dropping out seems the way to go. Kaydee 19s fit well, Detailed one end ready for PP stock from IRM! Next is to do ends with grab irons and transfers. worst job looks to be cutting glazing out of thick clear acyrlic - but the chocs were good ambassador! Also across bench after comments the other week has been a the dutch electric van to have grills fitted roof vents and exhaust to be added. and the weed killer got glazed and some transfers added. Robert 6 Quote
jhb171achill Posted March 1, 2022 Posted March 1, 2022 Wow!!! Superb. I actually like that grey livery on a 121…. 1 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted March 1, 2022 Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, jhb171achill said: Wow!!! Superb. I actually like that grey livery on a 121…. Cheers, I guess we are spoilt now as the MIR resin model is "basic" compared to bells and whistle of detail levels but I now wonder if I should have got out some 5 thou shim/ plasticard to make bonnet doors, I thought a dose of grime might hide but expect 134 will now kept to a medical grade of cleanness... Indeed the grey does sit well, but it is a short lived livery so the model will capture a moment in time. It did occur that I can get an 071 tranfer for a grey livery and mess with numbers to get a 121 version- with care. Steve has a colour RPSI crest for the gen vehicle so a white one should be possible. cheers Robert 1 Quote
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