Tara Mines Wagons ever go near Limerick/Limerick Junction?

[murphaph]

Morning all,

Would the Tara mines wagons ever have gone near the above when in service?

Cheers, 

Phil

[Rob]

They would be seen there when they travel to the wagon works in Limerick for overhaul, upkeep etc

[murphaph]

Cheers Rob, yeah I've seen pics of them outside the works. Is that the only reason for them to have been around that area?

How would they have made their way down and up? Individually or in a rake? Tagged onto the back of something else?

[Warbonnet]

1 hour ago, murphaph said:

Cheers Rob, yeah I've seen pics of them outside the works. Is that the only reason for them to have been around that area?

How would they have made their way down and up? Individually or in a rake? Tagged onto the back of something else?

Yes, it would be the only reason. There’s a weekly wagon transfer between Dublin and limerick which would take any wagons due works attention to Limerick wagon works, so mixed with flats etc.

[gm171 kk]

Shale wagons are similar but they're airbraked. They'd have been in operation between Kilmastulla and Limerick Cement Works. 

[DiveController]

Shale wagons would have used the Ballybrophy to Limerick line much more and were stored in Limerick after 2009 when the mine traffic ceased

 

Edited July 19, 2020 by DiveController

[hurricanemk1c]

There's a weekly "as required" wagon transfer from Limerick to Inchicore and back (and Limerick-Waterford and back), can be formed of anything and everything

The one on the 16th July had 074 hauling Tara Mines wagon 31015, LP flats 30174 and 30141, and LX flat 30253 back from Inchicore

 

Edited July 19, 2020 by hurricanemk1c

[murphaph]

Thx a lot for the valuable information so far guys. What would be required to mod the IRM Taras into shale wagons or is that a non-starter (overall length?)

 

 

Edited July 19, 2020 by murphaph
Forgot to say thanks

[DiveController]

Actually, some of the shales were converted to Taras, two as clarified by Fran below

To become shales they'd have to lose the roof and you'd have to add some ribbing along the side (You may not have detailing in the inside) Both 32' long, similar bogies

 

Edited July 19, 2020 by DiveController
corrected info

[Warbonnet]

6 minutes ago, DiveController said:

Actually, some of the shales were converted to Taras, four of them maybe but I don't recall exactly. To become shales they'd have to lose the roof and the ribbing is a little different. (You may not have detailing in the inside)

Two shale wagons were converted to Taras and still in use. The end profiles of the bodies are a little different too, as are the bogies, lack of end ladders, but not a million miles off. 

[DiveController]

1st & 4th wagons are converted shales as you can see from the original horizontal ribbing

[DiveController]

Beauparc, 2018 Tara Ore Rake with the 2 converts

[spudfan]

There are some good photos and descriptions of both the shale wagon and the Tara mines wagons in the very informative

"Locomotives and Rolling Stock of Irish Rail and Northern Ireland Railways"

 

Edited August 2, 2020 by spudfan