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As had I when I had an issue with a 141 (one small problem out of 13 141s/181s wasnt too bad) got back to me promptly and helped me out. Hence my initial suggestion.

Great video man, the Rapido stuff looks special. Tempted by their Amtrak F40 coming out soon...

In your opinion, which seems to be the most important thing to you. Also, you've taken this topic off course (and others). No more derailing topics so we can feast on your opinions which have little to do with the topic in hand. Thank you.

Christ.

I could be wrong of course, but screams starlet to me. Used to get a lift home from school in a 127, the hole in the floor reminded me of the flintstones!

The other car looks like a starlet to me?

And?

That rail trip you took last week has really taken its toll on you.

Tippex came in when IR was formed in 1987. So around there or maybe 88/89. Love the rust free fiat 127!

We'll have to agree to disagree Kevin (about methods of complaint, not the insanity bit!). If I have a problem with a product I would go to the manufacturer directly. I done it before with a US outline steam loco. They engaged with me and resolved the issue. I didnt go on forums and give out over and over again in the hope that the manufacturer would see them. Some people seem to want to do that on here rather than send PM an email. If he doesnt get back to a customer in a reasonable timeframe then I would understand the moaning. If people want to do things differently then that's up to them and that's fair enough. Anyway, this topic seems to bring out very emotive feelings amongst some. I think for the sake of the forum there is no need to go over the issues with the coaches again as it's been done to death already a couple of times now. I dont see the need to discuss this every few weeks and think it's best left until new developments take place.

I think Wrenn's post sums things up nicely. Can we now stop with the hearsay comments, conspiracy theories, criticisms of strategy, business decisions etc of Murphy Models please? If you want official communication from Murphy Models please contact the man directly or await patiently the communique on his website or via Wrenn Eire and dont hassle him (Wrenn) for a response. He will pass it on when he gets it. Thank you.

Very simple David, bleating on about defects with MM products on the forum hasnt had the desired effect - i.e an official response from Murphy Models. That's what people seem to want.

I think I'll leave it there. If you dont want to accept facts as being relevant then there is no point in engaging. I think other posters are feeling the same sadly.

Well, it hasnt worked so far in this instance, has it? And what you're saying is that it's best that Murphy Models reputation is damaged? Well that's going to help the Irish modelling community, isnt it? Once again you miss my point. You want something done, go to the organ grinder, not sit down the road moaning about it like a broken record.

BR was seen as highly efficient when it was broken up in many areas. It was privatized as it was the buzz word of the Governments of the day. Public money is being poured into private companies and shareholders get richer than ever. I believe Irish citizens have been on the streets protesting about similar occurrences here. It's only money? Everything comes down to money. You cannot compare the rail system with the UK and Ireland as they're vastly different. Also, journey times havent improved. Travelling numbers have gone up of course, but so have fares, ahead of the rate of inflation and car ownership is up too. Having lived in the UK their system is not what you're cracking it up to be.

Once again Kevin my point is that you are going on assumption. If you have a problem with the product, there is no point in moaning on a third party site or to a 3rd party vendor. The best solution is to contact the manufacturer directly. Plenty of people are moaning about PM not saying anything, yet they havent contacted him. It's bizarre behaviour. If people want something done they should email him. Then the situation will have a better chance of getting resolved than moaning on here time again. After all, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Privatization has been good for the UK when it comes to Rail Freight, there is no doubt about that. However, the passenger side is a mess. The subsidies paid out to operators by the British Government costs more now than BR ever did. It's also horrendously expensive to travel by rail. Privatization is inevitable in Ireland, I just hope we learn from mistakes made elsewhere.

Because there is no need to use heavier grade track which is more expensive.

If scale length/width is an option then count me in.

They should really rename Scotsman 'Trigger's Broom'...

Yep, it's either Birmingham New Street in P4 or Liverpool Lime Street (also in P4, or possibly EM) Two cracking layouts featuring hand built track.

I think I'd rather pay for a top quality RTR loco with a finish akin to one from the MM stable than something 3D printed with the finish of an egg carton. MM will do the 121s once money from previously released models has been recouped. Then it's a matter of giving China the go-ahead. It's his principle that has got him this far in his business and I'm sure that's what he'll stick to. I also dont think that a run of circa 500 locos is a 'big run'. Pretty much all previous locos done to this volume (or 252 when it comes to ltd edition 071s) have sold out.

So, you're relying on hearsay when it comes to PM knowing about the issue. I think if anyone wants the situation rectified they'd be better off contacting MM directly rather than moaning time and again on 3rd party forums and going over old ground. People power after all. Maybe PM isnt aware of the extent of the dissatisfaction among his customer base as they havent contacted him directly. Or is there a case that some people love having something to moan about and score cheap points with? I think he has handled the situation poorly (my own professional opinion, as I work in such an area.) but then again, has his client base also handled their end badly by not communicating their unhappiness directly to the man himself through his own official website and instead post on here and hope he might read it? Just a thought.

Happy to help!