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Just to play devils advocate here; What if Paddy Murphy said he wasn't interested in such a venture?

Yes but I missed this thread. Sure none of this Irish guff would be of interest to me They had some nice footage of Westerns and Warships on one episode and a tour of Toton depot. That was good enough for me!

You're replying to the man who has that direct line...

I think it was made around 10 years ago as far as I can recall.

Thanks for the update David, looking forward to it I have to say!

Something like Kickstarter means you pay in advance. Once there is enough orders the capital to cut tooling and do the design is in place. If the target is not met then the money is given back to those who bought into the project.

That's also for a max 11 coach train which will require several different coaches tooled up too. Maybe something like one loco would only need a couple of variants catered for. Rapido's stuff is superb though, run by real enthusiasts and critically they own their own factories in China.

For an insight into how Kickstarter works it's worth looking at this website. http://www.ngaugependolino.com/ At the moment it's a speculative exercise to see if there is interest there, then what people would be interested in. After that it's up to individual(s) to take the data to the next left if they so wish to do. I wouldnt worry about the politics or the inner workings of how something like this would eventually work just yet.

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Cheers Dhu Varren. Could be an interesting modelling project....

A couple of posts have mentioned "any Irish loco" etc. We cant really put that in as an entry in a poll. If anyone wants to take the idea forward a notch they can use the data from these polls to add a concrete base to their case and see if there is any desire for such a project to occur. First, find out if people are willing to pay up front. Then find out exactly what most people want and take it from there. When this poll finishes we will open a new poll with the suggestions in this thread to see what the most popular item will be.

If we are going to run a poll after this one lads we need suggestions of actual prototypes rather than "anything". Maybe keep it to one or two suggestions too otherwise the list might get very long! Cheers.

Great O'Dea pics there, especially the Mark IIs coming off the old Harwich train ferry. I'm guessing they came over on Brit bogies as accommodation bogies? Wonder if they went from Derby to port via road or rail...

Disappeared for me too. Have a look at photobucket and see if you can post again?

An Anto special by the looks of it!

Whilst looking at my usual staple of American porn I came across this beauty CIE at Cork by joemcmillan118, on Flickr He has a few more beauties too

I'll have a chat with the boss and see if we can set something up on the site for this if that's of interest to people?

Definitely not impossible, but a big task. The prepaid issue still stands though, but for what it's worth I'd have two!

This demonstrates why the Kickstarter model of doing things probably wont work here; people want to see what they're getting before committing. I think if the drivetrain specs were laid out and guaranteed from the beginning it would be enough for me personally to commit or otherwise. However, the all important shape is another thing! I also agree with Ed. Plenty of people are all talk until it comes to the crunch. Kickstarter would certainly get them to put their money where their mouth is. Maybe it could be a filter for such spoofers in the future! "Well you had the chance to put the cash up for one and you didnt bother, so stop moaning about it and saying you want one now!"

That's my fear personally; Will it look like the model I want, or if there's a big glaring error after I paid and I dont want it then what do I do? I want an A that looks like an A for instance. It's one reason I havent bothered with the Silver Fox variant. (I'm just using the A class as an example) It could be an option for Murphy, but it could work with others too. I'd have faith in Rapido for instance as their track record is fantastic. However, they might not want to know about it as it's outside their core interests. Shop commission is another option indeed, but I cant see the retailers here going for it in these uncertain times. I know one looked at it when times were still relatively good but when you have to pony up over 100 grand in advance it would put most off. I chose the A as an example as a few were wishlisting one on here in recent weeks, but indeed it could be any project. It would have to have a widespread appeal amongst Irish modellers though and have plenty of livery variants for a relatively standardised design for it to work.

Kickstarter projects seem to be becoming more fashionable in the UK. It could work here for certain models (thinking A and C classes). However, you would need a manufacturer on board. Another example of this is the N gauge pendolino http://www.ngaugependolino.com/. This has been organised by two guys who have approached the Canadian Rapido trains to make the models. They need 800 pledges (ie, money up front) in two months for it to work. Rapido do the necessary CAD work and manufacture in their factory in China. If they do not get enough pledges in that time then you get your money back. It could work, but as a wee straw poll; How many here would pay, say 180.00 Euro up front for an all singing, all dancing A Class that they might not see for 18 months - 2 years?

You finally got them then

For you lovers of CIE vehicles (including the fortcoming Leyland model) https://www.flickr.com/photos/57566472@N05/favorites/page8/?view=md

great bit of scratchbuilding on that hopper Kieran, well done!

Now that's a beaut. The enterprise livery looks A1 when weathered. Top work!