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Correct! Correct! It's still in its original postwar LMS lining. The first batch of "jeeps" were delivered in this LMS NCC style, with block letters "N C C" when the UTA crest and the two black paint patches are. The later ones, in the 50-series, were only ever in UTA livery. Here, No. 2 still has the single straw-beige coloured line with maroon outside it. But the "N C C" has been painted out and a new UTA crest put on. I am unaware of any other picture of this happening, as apart from the rapid application of the crests to navy & cream GNR railcars in 1959, the UTA seemed to make a good job of properly repainting locos, even if they didn't look after them quite as well after that. None were ever painted into UTA green as such - the UTA loco livery was always black - however - what you may mean (I'm guessing?) is the short-lived experimental liveries about that time? "Jeep" No. 5 very briefly had an experimental green about 1952, but it was far removed from the standard UTA green. One of the 2.6.0 "Moguls" was given it too. Apparently, it was similar to the (completely non-authentic) lightish mid-green on the BCDR loco (No. 30) in Cultra. It didn't last - a "proper" coat of lined black soon followed. No. 2, above, was always black.

This turned up in an old “Cuisle” magazine. CIE built some of these for their furniture removal business in the 1940s / 50s. Usually with road vehicles the cab sections were the usual green livery, with the goods-carrying section in wagon grey. However, these things were all green, the diagonal stripe being the light green as on carriage lining. The reversed “snail” on the driver’s side (same on that side of steam loco tenders and buses) will be noticed on the one side.

May 1950, York Road. Yeah, it’s “just a Jeep”. Look closer! What’s particularly interesting about this picture of No. 2?

I like the finish you've ended up with on the walls. It looks very good for an old stone building which has been whitewashed over countless times in a century and a half!

Proper order too - in real life they WOULD have looked shabby almost all of the time! Pristine shiny goods wagons weren’t exactly common in the past....

From which book are the livery descriptions?

Yes, now I'm looking at it on the "big" computer rather than the ipad, that is very clear. Thus, the mystery is solved. It is very definitely a weedspray train. But where!

Certainly looks like it, Ernie - however - while clearly it's an old six-wheeled coach chassis, the side showing on your pic appears to have still got three doorsteps, whereas none are visible on the original photo above. Therefore, unless what looks like steps on your pic are actually not, then that leaves the possibility that either its a slightly different vehicle (which I doubt), or there were only steps left on one side (more likely).

Stations, and a question. The first needs no introduction - Ballinamore in GSR days. The second is the short-lived Recess Hotel platform on the Clifden line. This came from an old out-of-print book in the history of Galway. I have it ready to go into the Clifden book but I need a much better quality copy, ideally the negative source. It does not appear in listings for the Lawrence / Welch collections. Has anyone of the historical community here got any idea where at least a better copy might be?

That's exactly the way to go! Anyone's layout is what they want it to be.... I think they look superb, Tony. I'd say Railtech can come up with anything you need transfer-wise, judging by anecdotal evidence here.

I have updated the tables I did at the start of this thread with relevant info gleaned from the above.

Possibly - hard to be 100% certain.

In relation to the painting of things green, I found the following. First, a letter to Senior from J Macartney Robbins detailing some livery aspects, and secondly a letter published in “Cuisle” in 1947 from an obvious enthusiast - being very much a case of “plus ca change”.... Were they actually made by Bassett Lowke or was this just a “headline” name? I’m unaware of any reviews of them, but a very fine looking beast.

That is quite possible, airfixfan, though if so it's not the normal one. If it IS a weedspray, it's going to be somewhere on the INW line. I'm actually thinking you're probably right.

This is a puzzle as it appears nowhere in Senior’s notes. Location and date unknown, beyond GNR and late 1950s, but following discussion here appears to be a weed spray train.

There was only one of this pair which went to Donegal and it was scrapped long ago. But the eight-wheeled one, as rebuilt India Donegal (and thus not in D & B condition) still exists in the museum in Cultra, which is outside Belfast rather than in Co. Donegal.

Is that particular one recommended as a good general-purpose primer for 00 gauge stuff?

I'm afraid not. Senior watched one of those railcars labour past him near a rural little country village called Templeogue (!!) and I think he saw one sitting in Blessington, but he never took a pic of it or travelled in it.

Flat sides on both of them. Both only ran a short time, and were quite unsuitable for the line. One got so rough and mechanically wrecked that after a very short time it was only used to carry mailbags.

Looks very nice indeed for "N", Tony! Big advantage for fitting more into less space.....

My first sight of one, as far as I recall, was in a loose-coupled goods train and it was loaded with new-looking wooden beams of some sort, sticking up slightly over one end...... easy to model with those longer matchsticks (the thicker ones) cut to suitable lengths....

I've nothing in the GSWR station as it had been closed for a very long time when I was travelling about! Indeed, so long, that Senior has nothing of the place either!

Drumm trains

The coach is at Claremorris and I think the loco was Athlone.

It’s 1976, and the summer is hot and long....