226 Abhann na Suire Posted April 10 Posted April 10 2 hours ago, airfixfan said: Going through the details the plans are for 5 new Enterpride trains to replace the DD sets by 2029 I think the plan was to have 8 sets…? Not 100% sure though but that would make more sense for an hourly service with a few contingencies in cases of a failure… 1 Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 1 hour ago, airfixfan said: Correct all. Enterprises will leave from the new Belfast Transport Hub from October 7th 2024 By the way, only one of each train will be needed (i.e 3 car CAF/ICR, 4 car 29K/ICR) Full Enterprise set and some other stuff. Will the RPSI MkIIs be going to the Transport Hub? Quote
NIRCLASS80 Posted April 10 Posted April 10 (edited) Current plan is 8 trains, each comprising of 8 coaches will be ordered. it might not be what is got but that’s the plan. See this link for the general outline of plan. https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2023/W39/807469160 Edited April 10 by NIRCLASS80 1 Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 11 minutes ago, NIRCLASS80 said: Current plan is 8 trains, each comprising of 8 coaches will be ordered. it might not be what is got but that’s the plan. See this link for the general outline of plan. https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2023/W39/807469160 So 64 coaches overall? 8x8=64 .. Quote
226 Abhann na Suire Posted April 10 Posted April 10 On 9/4/2024 at 10:10 AM, airfixfan said: Enterprise going hourly from October 7th using CAFs and ICRs for about 5 years Just curious, but do those in the know have any idea about the proposed timetable…? Or at least will they be a pre-9am arrival to both cities…? Quote
NIRCLASS80 Posted April 10 Posted April 10 1 hour ago, IrishTrainScenes said: So 64 coaches overall? 8x8=64 .. Correct 49 minutes ago, 226 Abhann na Suire said: Just curious, but do those in the know have any idea about the proposed timetable…? Or at least will they be a pre-9am arrival to both cities…? The plan is a 6am departure from both ends so arrival should be well before 9am 1 Quote
226 Abhann na Suire Posted April 10 Posted April 10 48 minutes ago, NIRCLASS80 said: Correct The plan is a 6am departure from both ends so arrival should be well before 9am Thanks @NIRCLASS80, that’s brillaint to hear, and about time too! Hopefully they bring it in as planned in conjunction with the opening of Grand Central Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 1650 ex Dublin 30 late Not the Enterprise failure this time!! Well I don't think so. Quote
airfixfan Posted April 11 Posted April 11 22 hours ago, IrishTrainScenes said: By the way, only one of each train will be needed (i.e 3 car CAF/ICR, 4 car 29K/ICR) Full Enterprise set and some other stuff. Will the RPSI MkIIs be going to the Transport Hub? RPSI Mk2s currently restricted to Whitehead and Cravens only passed to Dundak. 21 hours ago, 226 Abhann na Suire said: Just curious, but do those in the know have any idea about the proposed timetable…? Or at least will they be a pre-9am arrival to both cities…? That is the plan currently you cannot arrive till just before 10 from Dublin 1 Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 12 Author Posted April 12 Saturday 11th May Due to Engineering Works between Portadown and Belfast Lanyon Place on Saturday 11th May, the following services will operate as bus transfers between Belfast and Newry and by train between Portadown and Dublin Connolly; 07:35 Dublin Connolly to Belfast 06:50 Belfast to Dublin Connolly 08:00 Belfast to Dublin Connolly 10:35 Belfast to Dublin Connolly Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 12 Author Posted April 12 NIRailways Enterprise Enterprise Service - Change in Facilites 15 April 07:30-28 April 13:20 service Rail The following services will operate with limited Enterprise Plus and Catering facilities from 15th April 2024 for 2 weeks: 07:35 Dublin Connolly to Belfast 10:35 Belfast to Dublin Connolly Quote
airfixfan Posted April 13 Posted April 13 (edited) That means they will be an ICR. line closure on May 11th linked to complete closure of GVS from May 10th as planned Edited April 13 by airfixfan Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 13 Author Posted April 13 49 minutes ago, airfixfan said: That means they will be an ICR line closure on May 11th linked to complete closure of GVS from May 10th as planned 11th May only? PS ICR on 0735+1035 for 2 weeks Quote
airfixfan Posted April 13 Posted April 13 Sorry meant bustiturion on Enterprise on May 11th First of a series of disruptions and line closures until October 2024 Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 Enterprise NIRailways Enterprise Change in Facilities 15 April 13:11-15 April 19:11 service Rail The following services will operate using non-Enterprise trains. Enterprise Plus and catering will be limited: 13:20 Dublin to Belfast 16:05 Belfast to Dublin. Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I’m off to Belfast to meet cronies in the morning. Prob my last time in GVS, as I’ll be getting off the Enterprise in Portydown and getting a local to GVS….. Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 18 Author Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: I’m off to Belfast to meet cronies in the morning. Prob my last time in GVS, as I’ll be getting off the Enterprise in Portydown and getting a local to GVS….. What service? Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 18 Posted April 18 1 minute ago, IrishTrainScenes said: What service? 09:30, methinks. Ye on it? Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 18 Author Posted April 18 6 hours ago, jhb171achill said: 09:30, methinks. Ye on it? Nope, but 0735 & 1035 are 6 x 22000 until 29th April. Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 While the Enterprise had no issues today, the 1320 to Belfast failed but they got it going again. Arrival in Belfast was 1609 (34 minutes late) departing at 1627 for Dublin. The 1605 from Belfast, was, inevitably delayed!! as a stopper train (1623 GVS to Lisburn) was sent ahead of it. It past Moira at 1655 (31 minutes late). 16:05 Lanyon Place to Dublin Connolly due 18:17 has been delayed at Lanyon Place and is now 20 minutes late. This is due to an earlier train fault. Last Updated :19/04/2024 16:27 Scheduled Expected Destination 16:05 16:25 Lanyon Place 16:39 16:59 Portadown 17:01 17:21 Newry 17:20 17:40 Dundalk 17:41 18:01 Drogheda 18:17 18:37 Dublin Connolly Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 16:50 Dublin Connolly to Lanyon Place due 19:05 is being delayed at Portadown and is now expected to be 24 minutes late. This is due to a train fault. Last Updated :19/04/2024 18:52 Scheduled Expected Destination 16:50 16:50 Dublin Connolly 17:50 17:50 Dundalk 18:08 18:08 Newry 18:30 18:54 Portadown 19:05 19:29 Lanyon Place Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 19 Author Posted April 19 19:00 Dublin Connolly to Lanyon Place due 21:05 is being delayed at Newry and is now expected to be 20 minutes late. This is due to being delayed in Irish Rail. Last Updated :19/04/2024 20:30 Scheduled Expected Destination 19:00 19:00 Dublin Connolly 19:34 19:34 Drogheda 19:55 19:55 Dundalk 20:13 20:33 Newry 20:33 20:53 Portadown 21:05 21:25 Lanyon Place Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 Saturday 20/04/2024 The 1805 Belfast - Connolly & 2050 Connolly - Belfast were a 6 car NIR CAF, sets 3002 + 3005. Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 (edited) And hopefully this year (May 2024 & June 2024) we do NOT get the same issues as last year: 05/05/2023 0650 ex Belfast & 0930 ex Dublin C3K 07/05/2023 1105 ex Belfast & 1400 ex Dublin C3K 08/05/2023 0800 ex Belfast & 1120 ex Dublin C3K 11/05/2023 0650 & 1235 ex Belfast & 0930 & 1520 ex Dublin C3K, 0650/0930 3 car, 1235/1520 6 car 15/05/2023 0735 & 1320 ex Dublin & 1035 ex Belfast ICR 1605 ex Belfast & 1900 ex Dublin C3K 16/05/2023 1520 ex Dublin 29K(?) from Dundalk if did returned empty, 1805 ex Belfast & 2050 ex Dublin C3K 18/05/2023 0650 & 1235 ex Belfast & 0930 & 1520 ex Dublin C3K 19/05/2023 1520 ex Dublin ICR returned empty 1805 ex Belfast & 2050 ex Dublin C3K 20/05/2023 1650 ex Dublin & 2005 ex Belfast ICR 21/05/2023 1000 ex Dublin & 1305 ex Belfast ICR, 1600 ex Dublin & 1905 ex Belfast 29K 23/05/2023 0930 ex Dublin & 1235 ex Belfast 29K 01/06/2023 1650 ex Dublin & 2005 ex Belfast ICR 05/06/2023 1120 ex Dublin 29K returned empty 1405 ex Belfast C3K returned empty 06/06/2023 1805 ex Belfast terminated at Dundalk, 2050 ex Dublin IE Railcar to Dundalk C3K onwards 07/06/2023 1805 ex Belfast & 2050 ex Dublin C3K 08/06/2023 1405 ex Belfast & 1650 ex Dublin C3K 10/06/2023 1235 ex Belfast failed, 1520 ex Dublin ICR to Newry and CAF from Newry, 1805 ex Belfast & 2050 ex Dublin C3K 11/06/2023 1200 ex Dublin ICR to Newry and CAF from Newry, 1605 ex Belfast C3K returned empty 12/06/2023 1805 ex Belfast & 2050 ex Dublin C3K 13/06/2023 0650 ex Belfast & 0930 ex Dublin C3K 15/06/2023 1120 ex Dublin failed at Clontarf Rd, passengers transferred to 1221 ex Dublin C3K, 1405 ex Belfast C3K returned empty 24/06/2023 1805 ex Belfast & 2050 ex Dublin C3K And counting - that is 21 failures over a period of 50 days. Edited April 21 by IrishTrainScenes Fixed font Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 20 minutes ago, NIRCLASS80 said: No repeat! Yet... 17/07/2022 1000 ex Dublin failed before departure, although IE got it going again 16/07/2023 1000 ex Dublin & 1305 ex Belfast replaced by 4 x ICR!!! Quote
IrishTrainScenes Posted April 21 Author Posted April 21 Also... Is 1hr 55m (115 minutes) journey from Belfast to Dublin possible? Fastest was 1hr 37m (97 minutes) with a steam loco. A few years ago NIR set up a C3K non stop to Dublin taking 1hr 43m (103 minutes) . Quote
leslie10646 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 13 hours ago, IrishTrainScenes said: Also... Is 1hr 55m (115 minutes) journey from Belfast to Dublin possible? Fastest was 1hr 37m (97 minutes) with a steam loco. A few years ago NIR set up a C3K non stop to Dublin taking 1hr 43m (103 minutes) . Definitely! That was the non-stop schedule some years ago (might have been the 1980s when the track wasn't as good as now?). Then they added in all the stops! I footplated an 071 with the late Willie Graham, when, despite his reputation as a bit of a tearway, he drove with exemplary professionalism, even slowing where he knew there were bad bits of track. We did it easily. Bring back the 071s? 1 Quote
airfixfan Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Many years ago did the 08.00 from Belfast in under 2 hours with 191 replacing the failed NIR 071! Quote
Galteemore Posted April 22 Posted April 22 45 minutes ago, leslie10646 said: Bring back the 071s? never mind that ! The best timings of all were an S class with wooden stock. Maybe what’s what’s required Quote
hurricanemk1c Posted April 22 Posted April 22 And also remove at least 50% of the services both sides of the border to have the freer railway.... Quote
airfixfan Posted April 24 Posted April 24 On Monday got the 11.20 ex Dublin blocked by a DART looped at Congiffin first time I have seen this done. How unusual is this? Quote
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