Worsley Works Cork Blackrock & Passage tanks

[Pete00018]

Hi All,

 Just wondering if anyone has built the Worsley Works Passage tank kit (Cork Blackrock and Passage Railway - CBRPR) and how did you find it to assemble? 

Think I found a ref photo on web of one assembled (attached).

Thanks

 

 

Edited February 4 by Pete00018

[David Holman]

Doubt if it is a kit, as all Worsley stuff is just a set of etches. So no castings and no instructions either. On the other hand, they make a good start for any scratchbuilding project because they remove the need for a lot of marking and cutting out. Generally pretty accurate in my experience, but that lack of instructions can make identification of parts difficult.

 Have a look at my workshop thread for the Swilly Barclay 4-6-0T I build last year

[Horsetan]

Worsley specialise in "scratch aid" etches, especially in 4mm scale. They are meant to make your life easier, as David says, so that you are assured of being able to build the basic body.

Detail castings, however, are left to you. For example, I've had a Worsley GWR 42xx/5205 2-8-0T on the go for a while. The basic body structure is mostly done, with just the riveted overlays left to form. Worsley also include the chassis (a fold-up, even in P4), cylinders, motion and pony truck. In the intervening years, Brassmasters have produced a fully-sprung P4 chassis kit - actually intended for the Hornby model - and this has some potential to be adapted to the Worsley body.

Worsley very rarely provide any castings unless it's a model for which there aren't any bits from other sources - the NCC "W" 2-6-0 etch set, for example 

[jhb171achill]

Apparently these yokes were the flying machines of the Irish narrow gauge, with speeds of 50mph easily attainable. Just imagine that sight - and the CBPR track was very well maintained.

[leslie10646]

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

Apparently these yokes were the flying machines of the Irish narrow gauge, with speeds of 50mph easily attainable. Just imagine that sight - and the CBPR track was very well maintained.

Oh, come on, JB! You're a serious historian - show me a single log of a narrow gauge loco in action! 

I think I know most of the people who might have timed a narrow gauge train, but cannot remember a single log.

Saying that these things did 50mph is as likely as the Casey Jones 130 (?) mph which the Yanks claim as the steam world speed record!

Mind you, they look fast, but without evidence ....

When I die, I'll leave you my stopwatches and GPS!!!!!

Edited February 10 by leslie10646

[Andy Cundick]

Simple answer is yes pretty straight forward the trick is to treat it as an 0 6 2 . Main almost gets round Arigna just like the real thing .Though mines in its Passage condition to go with the coaches.Andy

[Phil3150]

The photo at the top of this thread is of Simon de Souza's scratch built model. I have also scratch built 12L as pictured

Phil

[Tullygrainey]

2 hours ago, Phil3150 said:

The photo at the top of this thread is of Simon de Souza's scratch built model. I have also scratch built 12L as pictured

Phil

That is exceptionally good. Beautifully made and perfectly finished. 

[jhb171achill]

6 hours ago, leslie10646 said:

Oh, come on, JB! You're a serious historian - show me a single log of a narrow gauge loco in action! 

I think I know most of the people who might have timed a narrow gauge train, but cannot remember a single log.

Saying that these things did 50mph is as likely as the Casey Jones 130 (?) mph which the Yanks claim as the steam world speed record!

Mind you, they look fast, but without evidence ....

When I die, I'll leave you my stopwatches and GPS!!!!!

I’ve a log of one heading through Omagh at 87.26 mph….

[leslie10646]

You've been the bottle again!

That Co Tyrone poteen is deadly!

[David Holman]

See my latest Workshop thread for an appraisal of a new set of Worsley etches.

[Mol_PMB]

Building an etched kit with no instructions is all part of the fun!

Certainly needs a thorough knowledge of the prototype and some familiarity with the designer’s mindset - a bit like solving a cryptic crossword. 

I’ve found that writing comprehensive instructions during the test build process does take a few hours but it’s not too much of a chore, but then so far no-one else has tried to interpret them. 

 

[Andy Cundick]

Bear in mind that Alans etches are scratch aids not kits,and if you treat them like theres no issue they certainly make modelling Irish lines a lot simpler Andy

[airfixfan]

22 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

I’ve a log of one heading through Omagh at 87.26 mph….

We have some timed logs of CDR trains in Donegal Town

[jhb171achill]

44 minutes ago, airfixfan said:

We have some timed logs of CDR trains in Donegal Town

Senior said he timed just under 30 mph once with a class five with three or four carriages behind it, going downhill over Barnesmore. But the coach was jolting and crashing over the joints and swaying like a cork in a rough sea….

[Horsetan]

1 hour ago, jhb171achill said:

Senior said he timed just under 30 mph once with a class five with three or four carriages behind it, going downhill over Barnesmore. ...

The Class 5s were supposedly capable of up to 50mph if occasion (and track condition) allowed it.

Edited February 12 by Horsetan

[David Holman]

When Clogher Valley wagons became Donegal 'red', they fitted larger wheels as the 2' ones, while fine for CVR speeds, weren't up to the higher ones on the Donegal.