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CIE Laminate Coaches - Worsley Works - ECMbuild in 4mm

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Well back to the laminate build!

All soldering and gluing is now complete, a little painting prep now being done- I'm using Lidl W5 Limescale Remover to clean up the brass, it does a neat job removing oxidisation and flux. The first few panels of the roof have been brushed over with W5 with a paint brush and washed down with water- sparkly!

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After a scrub with washing soda, next were painting...........

Eoin

 

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Absolutely Eoin'esque model engineering. :tumbsup: Stunning outcome. Agree it is the best brass work I have ever seen. Not an air gap, warp nor bend, nor a solder blob in sight. Stunningly precise and ultra neat work in a difficult medium. The home that coach is going to is going to be a very lucky bunny to have such a master piece and also one of Eoin's pieces of art. Looking forward to the painted end result although it almost seems a shame to paint it.

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Jaw dropping pure magic Eoin. Continued congratulations on this piece of modelling magnificence. You are a true master of your craft and your work will justifiably sit happily alongside other wonderful masterpieces for the enjoyment of current generations and generations yet to come. .

Very well done indeed Eoin!

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That really is an excellent build. Little short of perfection.

On interior colours, the seating is spot on. Going from memory, the seat headrests were black soft plastic / leatherette. There were two types of seat, the high backed ones in most carriages, including Cravens and Park Royals, and a shorter headrest in others - I think they were the laminates. Inner sides I seem to recall as dark brown wood pattern. Sliding doors at the carriage ends were varnished wood (I think). I can't remember the ends at all. Some of the Cravens had a criss cross grey pattern on the inner sides, and a beige fabric on the seats, but that wasn't used on the laminates or on anything else. This was for the period 1976 to 1984.

John, I seem to have been following you around Dublin in the early 80s because on a visit to Inchicore I saw carriages being stripped and I remember being told it was to remove asbestos from them, but I can't remember whether they were laminates or Park Royals, and I can't remember were they being reskinned or was it just work on the interior. In fact, thinking back on it, I hope I wasn't on them.

 

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On 7/9/2019 at 1:48 PM, flange lubricator said:

Any update on the sides for the commonwealth bogies .

 

Hi fl

I have not had a chance to beef up the patterns to make new moulds - Not enough months in a year!!

I do have a set of parts that would do one coach, I have yet to install the suspension & torsion bars, if your interested in them I'll do that?

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Just in reply to Mayner, it wasn't just a few laminates that were re -skinned. It was most , if not all the laminate fleet were ' rebuilt' in the late 70's and into the early eighties. They actually became known as Re-builds and never referred to as laminates again. Quiet a lot of work was done on them , not just re - skinning. New cant rails ( top rail ) were fitted along with whole new side frame sections. Then followed along with aluminium panels on the outside and awful plastic veneered panels on the interior. Complete new toilets were fitted too along with equally awful false tile pattern panels. No welding , no plastic , no fibreglass and no fumes. Nice clean work as we used to say.

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Rescue operations on the laminate coach build;- the body and chassis were primed and under-coated at the same time I was doing the Flying Scotsman, if you read that thread you'd know the problem- dusty under coat due to a faulty gun!

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I had also painted the inside of the body silver which will require masking.

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Both the body and chassis needed recovery, I used my home made blast cabinet to cut back the messy undercoat.

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Low pressure and fine grit cut back the paint almost to the brass and left a beautiful surface to undercoat again.

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Because I silvered the interior a bit early, masking was required to the inside before painting commenced.

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and recovered.

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The chassis is undergoing the same treatment and now nearly back to finalising the paintwork.

Eoin

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Laminate body painting.

Having restored the dodgy undercoat I set about painting the body;-

White first for the stripe.

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Then masked off the white stripe for painting the orange.

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Orange done, used Phoenix paints Class 201 (dull).

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Orange complete and now masking up for the black.

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Black done, I used Humbrol 85 Satin Black.

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and the enjoyable time- peeling off the masking tape to see what mess is underneath!

Lovely

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and other side, lovely!

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A slight bit of touching up required;- the paints ran into the etched lines under the masking and the upper door hinges did the same.

But overall delighted with the way it came out......

Eoin

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Eoin, looks fantastic. Just one thing I've noticed. Before you unite the coach body and underframe you need a partition around the brake compartment so you can't see straight through the coach. There was a corridor along one side of the brake compartment leading to the gangway connection. Also, partitions between the vestibules and the seating area. You've probably thought of these, but just in case …

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