Kirley Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 See BBC News clip which hints at better things to come. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-25931587# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP6936 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) i heard on facebook that the DD sets will be getting refurbed and there is a possibility of a MK4 set(s) covering the services. people seem to have mixed views on it, talking about ICR sets being used, but one rumour is NIR would prefer a MK4. its good to hear its getting a cash boost edit: just watching the clip again, was that 230 at the end? Edited January 30, 2014 by UP6936 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawfin Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Sorry if I'm just spreading excrement everywhere as I usually do, but a friend of mine sent an email to IÉ and got a reply saying that they won't be refurbished in France (that's a start ), and it also implies that replacing the DDs with MK4 seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lough Erne Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I would be surprised if they had even considered France as I think De-Deitrich have long been out of business. I assume the money is just for an internal refit, possibly a bit of rewiring and a bit of bogie work as they are approaching as noted elsewhere there 'half life refurb'. I imagine they will do it coach by coach using the spares or do it one rake at a time with a TPWS and CAWS IE or NIR railcar set as a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I would be surprised if they had even considered France as I think De-Deitrich have long been out of business. I assume the money is just for an internal refit, possibly a bit of rewiring and a bit of bogie work as they are approaching as noted elsewhere there 'half life refurb'. I imagine they will do it coach by coach using the spares or do it one rake at a time with a TPWS and CAWS IE or NIR railcar set as a replacement. I'm guessing the work will be going out to tender, so no telling where they will end up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 i heard on facebook that the DD sets will be getting refurbed and there is a possibility of a MK4 set(s) covering the services. people seem to have mixed views on it, talking about ICR sets being used, but one rumour is NIR would prefer a MK4. its good to hear its getting a cash boost edit: just watching the clip again, was that 230 at the end? Ooohhh! The mk4s sound good! And no, it wasn't 230. 230 has grey panels below the lights like a couple of the other 201s did before they got taken out of service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Ooohhh! The mk4s sound good! You wont be saying that after you travel on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I agree very uncomfortable. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The coaches are having a full refit including the replacement of the internal carpet body panels for GRP panels, lighting, toilets and seating. The project will be finished within two years of starting and will give the coaches a useful 10 to 15 year life extension. By that time the plan to electrify Dublin Belfast line will be under way with a max speed of 120 mph on the line. The trains will be running to the expanded great Victoria street station and not the inconvenient Belfast Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP6936 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 There's a plan to electrify? Didnt know that! Will that mean new electric locos to work the DDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The coaches are having a full refit including the replacement of the internal carpet body panels for GRP panels, lighting, toilets and seating.The project will be finished within two years of starting and will give the coaches a useful 10 to 15 year life extension. By that time the plan to electrify Dublin Belfast line will be under way with a max speed of 120 mph on the line. The trains will be running to the expanded great Victoria street station and not the inconvenient Belfast Central. Electrify? 120mph? I'll believe it when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killucan2 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Two years for 28 coaches were the f are they being overhauled China!!,if that was UK it would be weeks not years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Or the Dart running the enterprise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 By that time the plan to electrify Dublin Belfast line will be under way with a max speed of 120 mph on the line. we better make the most of the next few years to enjoy the diesel hauled services so if that is to be the case. dont care much for the electric locos...nothing beats the roar of the ould diesels:) - but i suppose you wont stand in the way of progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP6936 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I don't like the prospect of electric traction myself. It's hard to imagine Central these days without the 201 sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunluce Castle Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Electrify!, no thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 New electric locos and coaches or Emu's will go out to tender in the next 10years for delivery in 15 years time. Dmu's or Demu's will not be used due to the cost of maintenance fuel. It is cheaper to use a diesel loco or electic traction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I don't like the prospect of electric traction myself. It's hard to imagine Central these days without the 201 sounds. Enterprise will be running to the expanded Great Victoria Street station not Central Translink already own the land to expand the station to at least a six platform station possibly eight platforms, each platform will be able to handle a nine car plus size train. The redevelopment of the station will include the bus and train station being under one roof funding will be covered by building a new shopping mail, offices and residential appartments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Two years for 28 coaches were the f are they being overhauled China!!,if that was UK it would be weeks not years![/quote ]The coaches will be overhauled in the UK / NI. That's 14 coaches a year which is in engineering is a very quick turnaround they are not just washing the windows and replacing the carpets. The coaches are being stripped down to bear shells and are being completely rebuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Electrify!, no thank you. Cost of low-emission locos and fuel would make it almost impossible to run a low cost service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Electrify? 120mph? I'll believe it when I see it. Translink expect the masts to go up first any track modification to upgrade line speed will happen after new traction is delivered and place into service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunluce Castle Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffles Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 If it ain't broke, don't fix it. line speed up-grade will be apart of normal line maintenance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201bhoy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I wonder whether the train will still go to York Road for cleaning between services, or whether they'll just get cleaned at GVS, like they do at Connolly? It would be strange seeing the enterprise passing through Central without stopping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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