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    Accurascale And Rails of Sheffield ‘Sett’ To It By Unleashing The 'Badger' Class 89 OO Locomotive

    in British Outline Modelling

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    50 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

    If all goes well, on Saturday I’ll be riding behind an A. If that’s not enough to make me want to buy another, I don’t know what will…

    But there’s an outside chance of some for sale at the Belfast show too. 

    That Saturday trip will sway you, no better way to make you want something you really have no use for at all.

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    Accurascale And Rails of Sheffield ‘Sett’ To It By Unleashing The 'Badger' Class 89 OO Locomotive

    in British Outline Modelling

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    2 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

    I wonder who you mean? 🤔

    They're also in stock at Accurascale.

    I'll save my cash for a C class. Or I might yet buy that secondhand green A class on eBay to give me something to haul my green Park Royals. It's about the same price but at least it would suit my theme.


    I’m kicking myself for not buying an extra green A or two back in the day. I felt that for the silvers and greens, the photos never quite did them justice. To the naked eye, they are something else.

    New flat pack baseboards

    in modelrailbaseboards.com

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    16 hours ago, Ironroad said:

    On that basis, their inclusion in the "Services" section of this forum needs to be amended.

    Yup, into the defunct section, based on Mr. Lindfield’s own publication on FaceBook, with an advisory over unclear company status at the top of the section, reminding users that the forum is not responsible for financial transactions.

    Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

    in News

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    14 hours ago, Mol_PMB said:

    For me, the Hunslets and the 800s have much less appeal than the C class (I have ordered a Hunslet though). There were only 3 of each and they had a very restricted operational range, both in geography and time.

    The C class, if we include the MV class and the preserved examples, cover 70 years, there were over ten times as many of them, and a dozen different liveries. During the course of their lives they worked all over Ireland - Valentia Harbour - Ballina - Derry - Bangor - Howth - Rosslare - Dungarvan - Youghal - Skibbereen and everywhere in between. Surely these would sell? And a lot of the complex shape and details have already been worked out for the A class models. The mechanism and bogies could be closely based on the Hunslets.

    Not immediately, for sure, but I really hope they do appear. Sign me up for at least 4 of them.


    C Class would definitely not sell if released on top of the current avalanche of models, but if released at a strategically planned point in time, would go like hot cakes. Forum members have been crying out for an RTR C Class the past decade.

    Price point would also be worth reflection. Assuming that a re-run of a loco will be around the €200 mark, and a new tool would be €275, generalising that based on the last few years of A/S pricing, waiting for a gap in the market would be important, along with pondering which would sell better, and offer a better return, for similar spec locos, the €200 re-run or the €275 new tool.

    I’d definitely take a few C Classes! Just not right now. My Silver Fox pair just don’t quite fit in with the amazing detail on newer models. Exaggerating slightly, here, but they remind me of those little blocks of Shamrock marzipan you could get years ago, when sat beside an IRM A Class.

    Based on anecdotal evidence such as second-hand A Class sales, new 141 sales, and reduced batch sizes from A/S for Hunslets and 800’s, has UK demand for Irish locos already peaked?

    Will we be looking at a five year wait for a C Class, priced at €300 per unit, and produced in very limited numbers, mainly going to Irish buyers?

    Or will we have one next year for €220, to haul our Park Royals, snapped up like hot cakes?

    I guess the ones with the best perspective on likely sales demographics are A/S themselves.

    I’d say the former is more likely, if things continue in the direction they have been going.

     

    Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

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    7 hours ago, Mayner said:

    Fran wrote a piece on RM Web about the 1st batch of new RTR models usually selling out and the 2nd batch ending up on clearance, and the significantly higher level of demand (3 times) for the Accurascale Class 37 (despite being duplicated by other manufacturers) compared with both the Class 89 and the ex-GE Buck.

    So would not exactly hold my breath for IRM or MM to release a C Class/B201

    From a loco to haul a Park Royal perspective the Cs/201 Class had largely ceased to haul passenger trains following the commissioning on the DART in 84?, single 141/181s largely taking their place on Dublin Outer Suburban services, the remaining 201s largely restricted to shunting duties at North Wall.

    The Park-Royals were banned from fast Cork Line passenger services during the late 80s, I last travelled in trains made up of refurbished Park Royal Ciaches (interior spruced up) between Mallow & Killarney (possibly a Cork Tralee service) and Connolly and Drogheda in 88-89, Cork-Tralee possibly 001 or a 141/181 Connolly-Drogheda 141/181

    When all is said and done the old Q kits A & C Class could be assembled into quite presentable models!

    I picked up mine in finished in early 80s condition second hand from the Belfast Caboose about 30 years ago and re-gauged its Athearn mech to run on 21mm gauge for use on the MRSI Loughrea layout and hasn't been run in about 20 years like most of my locos! The original builder did a nice job including flush glazed windows and windscreen wipers, I passed up on a MIR 071 finished to a similar standard too large and modern for my tastes and would have severley stretched the budget.

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    That makes sense.

    We have Hunslets on the way, 800’s on the way, 071’s on the way, 201’s on the way, 22000’s on the way and DART+ on the way, in the “powered” category.

    Adding a new-tool on top at this point in time seems reckless and feckless.

    The Irish market being so small relative to the UK market has to increase / decrease figures by a huge magnitude, too.

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    Accurascale And Rails of Sheffield ‘Sett’ To It By Unleashing The 'Badger' Class 89 OO Locomotive

    in British Outline Modelling

    Posted

    12 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

    Roadkill?

    Certainly looked like it. Gobshites packing these things never seem capable of thinking, hey, this is gonna travel 4000km, let’s pack it well. At least they remembered the AccuraEnds, so even though it was bouncing around inside with three pieces of brown paper, the box looks nice - as does the loco!

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    Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

    in News

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/396943187641

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/236242734454

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/365773907754

    All these three come up on my search and all are on the island of Ireland, though only one south of the border.

    Interesting to hear that they go quickly on Adverts.ie. Of course it may be a matter of price.

    I did wonder if Wrenneire might have a few in the stash!

    I almost wish I'd kept my old Q kits resin bodyshell from decades ago. 

    €400 for an A Class?????

    Jaysus, Class A would be cheaper.

    No international shipping, and only visible via the url, none appear via a search, so no surprise there.

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    Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

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    Silver Fox C Class combined with SSM detailing kit would probably do the job in the interim, so to beat that, the 3D printed model would need to be very detailed.

    Possible that the slow-selling A Classes are only slow in the UK. The few that I’ve seen in here and on Adverts.ie have sold very quickly.

    Just out of curiosity, I searched ebay, just now, even using the co.uk platform, to no avail. No A Classes show up. Perhaps British sellers are put off by post-BrExit customs shenanigans, and don’t want to deal with the hassle of shipping outside the UK.

    Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

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    10 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

    I've bought 3 in the past year from various sources secondhand, and I'm not looking for any more - if I was I could have bought any livery of my choice over that period (though not perhaps all options of running number).

    There are 3 on ebay at the moment, including green and silver liveries. Rails of Sheffield had a batch of a dozen or so about 6 months ago, all liveries, but all now sold. Ellis Clark have them occasionally. Stoby has sold a few on here too.

     

    Must be UK-only eBay listings as almost none have shown up for me. I can only see UK-only listings using the url, and can only buy using a UK address.

    So you say there’s no demand for more A Class locos, that’s a shame. An A Class re-run could be announced tomorrow with the locos already in stock, and we’d be none the wiser.

    Probably at least three or four years before having a C Class on sale, and delaying the Park Royals that long wouldn’t make sense.

    Irish Royalty - Park Royal Coach Next For IRM

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    11 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

    The A class are not too hard to pick up secondhand at present, with a bit of patience. 

    Considering that the Park Royals are nominally suburban coaches, they would go much better with one of these...

     

    Or some of these...

     


    I’ve only seen a handful of second-hand A Classes for sale, maybe five or ten over the past year or two. @Fowler4f had several for sale on eBay at one stage, bulking up those figures.

    Unless A/S have new tools ready for the C Class or AEC, we’d be in for a long long wait.

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